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Questions Re: RRS Pro Monopod Head (MH-01 Pro)

 
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Feb 23, 2018 09:07 |  #16

Choderboy wrote in post #18570263 (external link)
Camera plate? I suspect we are talking about a lens plate. What lens or lenses are you planning to use with this?

Yes, I meant lens plate, and it's for Sigma 150-600 C, which has a shorter foot than the S version. While S version has, I believe, three holes, the C version just has one. I don't know how well the plate that comes with the L-20S. In case it doesn't, or should I decide to go with MH-01, then I'd need one that would work nicely with the Sigma's lens foot.



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Feb 23, 2018 09:09 |  #17

Nethawked wrote in post #18570246 (external link)
I went with the Sirui L-20S despite the currently useless panning feature only because I may eventually want a monopod with feet, where it will be more useful. The Sirui is a beast, I'm very happy with it.

One point on lever vs knob for tightening down your camera. Most of the time my camera on monopod is slung across my shoulder when I'm getting around. I definitely didn't want the chance that the lever might catch on a pack strap or collar when lifting it off my shoulder for use. The knob requires a tad more work, but the benefit to confidence is a no brainer in my opinion.

Good point. As long as the knob version isn't a drag for my need for quick release, it should do just fine.



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Feb 23, 2018 09:18 |  #18

SYS wrote in post #18570382 (external link)
Good point. As long as the knob version isn't a drag for my need for quick release, it should do just fine.

One quick turn and the camera can be slid forward or back for quick removal. More turning, more delay of course to open the clamp wide enough to lift straight off.




  
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Feb 23, 2018 09:37 |  #19

SYS wrote in post #18570379 (external link)
Yes, I meant lens plate, and it's for Sigma 150-600 C, which has a shorter foot than the S version. While S version has, I believe, three holes, the C version just has one. I don't know how well the plate that comes with the L-20S. In case it doesn't, or should I decide to go with MH-01, then I'd need one that would work nicely with the Sigma's lens foot.

You want something with a lip one end, like these, to resist the plate twisting:
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …_Quick_Release_​Plate.html (external link)
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …_quick_release_​plate.html (external link)

I would get one at least as long as the foot on the Sigma.


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Feb 23, 2018 10:27 |  #20

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If this is indeed the way MH-01 is designed to work, then Sirui L20-S has an advantage in this regard as it doesn't seem to suffer from the same issue from what I've read.

Sorry, but I think the specs are BS. I have not seen an L20 in person, but as far as I understand, the L20 is the L10 with a panning base. It is not a different, improved or larger design, it IS the L10 with a panning base. Adding a panning base is not going to make it have a higher weight capacity or alter the tilting issue you are reading about from the L10. FYI the L10 design is several years old. The L20 is newer, thus much fewer reviews.

could it be more solid? Maybe.

Which one IS definitely more solid and has the fast operating QR? the RRS.
This from the guy that will never buy RRS again, there is still no question that the RRS is a much sturdier head.

I am not sure any of these heads will offer a smooth tilt function with a set pressure setting. It sounds like you want the performance and feel of either a fluid head or back to a gimbal, in one of these small tilt heads. These heads don't have enough meat to set that kind of fluid balanced tension you describe above.


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Feb 23, 2018 10:36 |  #21

Choderboy wrote in post #18570400 (external link)
You want something with a lip one end, like these, to resist the plate twisting:
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …_Quick_Release_​Plate.html (external link)
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …_quick_release_​plate.html (external link)

I would get one at least as long as the foot on the Sigma.

Thank you for the product links, which I always appreciate. Of the two, I think I'd like the Sunwayfoto make better not just because it's cheaper but looks to be as equal or even better in quality than the Acratech's.



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Feb 23, 2018 10:52 |  #22

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18570428 (external link)
Sorry, but I think the specs are BS. I have not seen an L20 in person, but as far as I understand, the L20 is the L10 with a panning base. It is not a different, improved or larger design, it IS the L10 with a panning base. Adding a panning base is not going to make it have a higher weight capacity or alter the tilting issue you are reading about from the L10. FYI the L10 design is several years old. The L20 is newer, thus much fewer reviews.

could it be more solid? Maybe.

Which one IS definitely more solid and has the fast operating QR? the RRS.
This from the guy that will never buy RRS again, there is still no question that the RRS is a much sturdier head.

I am not sure any of these heads will offer a smooth tilt function with a set pressure setting. It sounds like you want the performance and feel of either a fluid head or back to a gimbal, in one of these small tilt heads. These heads don't have enough meat to set that kind of fluid balanced tension you describe above.

Upon close inspection of the two Sirui's, they pretty much "look" the same except for the knobs, the plate, and of course, the panning base. As for the knobs, just based on the photos, L-10 actually looks beefier. In any case, they do look the same but not identical. Whether the load capacity difference between these two is BS or not, it's a moot point as long as either does the job. I'm more concerned with the difference between the Sirui vs. MH-01.

It looks like, from all my research, MH-01 (lever version) has the advantage in better make and quicker release function while Sirui has the advantage in being lot more economical and smoother tilt function. Since I'm not concerned at all about Sirui's quality make (it's not like it's going to break apart in 10 years while MH-01 will last a life time), it comes down to the lever vs. smoother tilt plus better price (about $160 less for L-20 and lot less for L-10). One thing I personally find distasteful are those companies that make great products but they do price their products at premium rate that I deem unnecessarily haughty. I prefer to give businesses to those that make as good a product while being more reasonable with their pricing. But that's just me.



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Feb 23, 2018 11:01 |  #23

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18570428 (external link)
...I am not sure any of these heads will offer a smooth tilt function with a set pressure setting. It sounds like you want the performance and feel of either a fluid head or back to a gimbal, in one of these small tilt heads. These heads don't have enough meat to set that kind of fluid balanced tension you describe above.

A smooth tilt under pressure, in combination with a reasonable stiffness when you stop tracking (without reaching for the lock) is what is needed for tracking action. I don’t do a lot of birds in flight, but tracking sports action requires this.

Mostly that’s with the sidekick on a ball head on a half-ball leveler on older Gitzo sticks equiv to series 3. Love the easy leveling with this approach, and as Jake’s posts have helped me to understand, the sidekick is quite good for the 150-600 and 100-400 lenses.

But when the monopod comes out, I’m using an Acratech Long Lens head. It has separate lock and drag controls. It’s working for me for tracking, but, I don’t really have any experience on other monopod heads to compare it to. It has a panning base that’s unused on a monopod, but, IMO this is a pretty good lightweight head that handles a big load for those of us that need 2 or 3 Arca Swiss heads in our kit.

https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …3mMwXdEAQYASABE​gL89PD_BwE (external link)

Rereading the reviews at B&H, it seems that the tracking isn’t so great for eg. a 600mm f4. My longest / heaviest lens is a 150-600, for that it works well.


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