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Feb 24, 2018 20:06 |  #3076

SYS wrote in post #18571520 (external link)
Yup, you're right, I misread your post. Should have read it more carefully. I'm somewhat disappointed with the keeper rate of my copy when shooting hand-held, but I think it's just what it is. Your 20% keeper rate is indeed quite low, but it's hard to say what's really up with that.

Meh. I chalk it up to bad luck. I use the 100-400II + TC for general wildlife. Not a lot of BIF but I’m often unhappy about the F/8 max aperture vs available focus points. I also generally carry 2 bodies so another good wildlife zoom would suit me well. There is just too much evidence to say that the Sigma performs much better than I experienced. I asked the retailer to evaluate my return for a possible exchange. Hopefully it will work out. Like most people I’m losing faith in the Canon 200-600 rumour.


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Feb 24, 2018 20:37 |  #3077

Still on the learning curve with this lens. Took it out with my new 7d2 today for the 1st time. Crappy day weather wise but still got some decent BIF's.

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Feb 24, 2018 20:39 |  #3078

^^ Looks good, nice and sharp.



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Feb 25, 2018 05:49 |  #3079

nqjudo wrote in post #18570806 (external link)
Great shot bianchi. I’ve purchased this lens twice and I just can’t get sharp results. On a tripod with the OS off they’ve performed admirably but with the OS on handheld I get a keeper rate of about 20% vs 80-90% with the canon 100-400 + TC. I think I’ve just fallen upon a couple of bad units. Kind of frustrating seeing my friends get good results.

Thank you, that was shot handheld with the 5DIV & Sig C 150-600 + Canon1.4 II .. With the 7DII it doesn't work as good, and with the 7DII I have to shoot it without the 1.4 to get quality images .. I did all the updates and also have the dock for the Sig .

Ironically, I get a better keeper rate with the 5DIV vs 7DII, plus a little more cropping pixels with the 5DIV.

I also have the 100-400II + 1.4TC, and I get about the same keeper rate as the Sig , but the Canon is faster to focus and a bit lighter, most of the time just a bit short vs the Sig .

I like zooming with the Sig by holding it at the end and using it like the old 100-400 Push/Pull. My only complaint with the Sig is it's very tight, to the point it can get sticky, wish it was a lot smoother like the 100-400II. I have been thinking about hitting it with some silicone... Anyone have a hack to make it smoother to Zoom.

How do others fill about the smoothness for zooming on the Sig ( I do not use the zoom ring, for me its much faster to Push /Pull )


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Feb 25, 2018 06:01 |  #3080

nqjudo wrote in post #18571527 (external link)
Meh. I chalk it up to bad luck. I use the 100-400II + TC for general wildlife. Not a lot of BIF but I’m often unhappy about the F/8 max aperture vs available focus points. I also generally carry 2 bodies so another good wildlife zoom would suit me well. There is just too much evidence to say that the Sigma performs much better than I experienced. I asked the retailer to evaluate my return for a possible exchange. Hopefully it will work out. Like most people I’m losing faith in the Canon 200-600 rumour.

If the retailer does not come through for you (hope he does) consider sending it back to Sigma for an evaluation.

Also if you see or know another shooter with the Sig, ask to exchange with them for a few shoots, to see if your Sig is the issue.

Good Luck !!


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Feb 25, 2018 06:14 |  #3081

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Thank you, that was shot handheld with the 5DIV & Sig C 150-600 + Canon1.4 II .. With the 7DII it doesn't work as good, and with the 7DII I have to shoot it without the 1.4 to get quality images .. I did all the updates and also have the dock for the Sig .

Ironically, I get a better keeper rate with the 5DIV vs 7DII, plus a little more cropping pixels with the 5DIV.

I also have the 100-400II + 1.4TC, and I get about the same keeper rate as the Sig , but the Canon is faster to focus and a bit lighter, most of the time just a bit short vs the Sig .

I like zooming with the Sig by holding it at the end and using it like the old 100-400 Push/Pull. My only complaint with the Sig is it's very tight, to the point it can get sticky, wish it was a lot smoother like the 100-400II. I have been thinking about hitting it with some silicone... Anyone have a hack to make it smoother to Zoom.

How do others fill about the smoothness for zooming on the Sig ( I do not use the zoom ring, for me its much faster to Push /Pull )

I do the push/pull with mine too. The zoom ring takes way too many turns to go from 150 to 600. Mine is smooth enough I guess, no real comp for me. Just wish they had a dedicated push/pull grip, I almost have to palm the lens to un-zoom.


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Feb 25, 2018 12:01 |  #3082

Red tailed hawk scanning for prey

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Feb 25, 2018 19:14 |  #3083

Not sure which crop?

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Feb 25, 2018 20:58 |  #3084

The closer crop is better due to the drama.



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Feb 25, 2018 21:06 as a reply to  @ SYS's post |  #3085

Thank you, I agree. I was amazed at how little drama there was, he picked the fish out of the water as easily as I grab a grape out of fridge. Casually walked up to the ice edge calmly plucked a fish out with his beak...


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Feb 26, 2018 07:11 |  #3086

Only had this lens a couple of weeks, love it already! Short trip this morning hoping to photograph some Wild Fowl, but as I stepped out of the car I find this fella perched next to the lake!


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Feb 26, 2018 07:17 |  #3087

Buzzard in flight and a wildfowl silhouetted against a frozen lake!


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Feb 26, 2018 09:10 |  #3088

I was having a muck about near a couple of feeders yesterday. Here are two shots, the first with a 7Dii and Canon 500f4is so 800mm equivalent

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This is with the Sigma 150-600C on a 1Div which gives 780mm equivalent. Both handheld no IS or OS on either shot. The Sigma is obviously lighter the Canon much much faster to focus but the results speak for them selves. ie the Sigma is a very capable bit of kit and much cheaper than Canon primes though I do love my 500f4.

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Feb 26, 2018 09:48 |  #3089

Excellent shots Martin just shows what this sig can do up against the big boys

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This is with the Sigma 150-600C on a 1Div which gives 780mm equivalent. Both handheld no IS or OS on either shot. The Sigma is obviously lighter the Canon much much faster to focus but the results speak for them selves. ie the Sigma is a very capable bit of kit and much cheaper than Canon primes though I do love my 500f4.

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Feb 26, 2018 16:07 |  #3090

All,
I need some help, after buying the canon 7Dmk2 last year I'm still not getting the quality I would like.
So i talked to a Sigma HQ in the Netherlands and they offered to do the MFA for me, so they had my lens and camera for a week and told me all should be within spec.
Last Saturday finally I had some good light and thus I took a lot of test shots, tried to find the balance between ss and ISO to keep the noise down.
I payed attention to my hand-holding technique and choose 1/500 as minimal ss, also 1/1000 I used a lot.
Found a robin (and some other smaller birds) and took a good amount of shots, picture you see was the best of all of those 100 shots @ 10 meters distance.
To me they looked ok in normal view but in 1:1 view they all looked terrible.
All setting are default in lightroom 6 so it cannot be a photo editor issue

So questions are:
1) I'm I expecting to much and is viewing in 1:1 mode overdone (how do you check for image sharpness?, 1:2 ?).
2) before I had a canon 6D, which was a little better IQ wise but I was never blown away, even more from what I see here.
3) Do i have a bad copy, so sell it and but a new 150-600 C?

Any thought are very welcome since I have no fund to buy another lens, this one is almost out of Sigma warranty, EF 100-400 MK 2 is costly and 200 mm shorter.

It even crossed my mind to sell all my canon gear and buy a Nikon D500 + 200-500 mm f5.6 lens, but will it improve my IQ? (so I'm quite desperate at this point :-) ).


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