Sony a7R III

ericz34 wrote in post #18567728
Quick question everyone.

I have a chance to purchase the a7rii for $1600 used. I’m coming from a 6D canon world. Would the a7rii be a formitable upgrade or should I dish out the money for the a7riii.

Bare in mind I’m not a paid professional, but I do 50/50 photography/video.

Depends on what you shoot. The R3 is a big upgrade in terms of speed and the ergonomic improvements make compositng things quickly in the fly much easier.

The R2 is on the sluggish side.

Cascadian wrote in post #18555152
So 2 weeks ago I decided to jump ship and move from Canon to Sony, going from a 5DmkII to the a7Riii. It's a huge leap in technology and I'm loving the image quality. However, I shoot real estate and oftentimes exposure bracket for simplicity. It's great coming from Canon and the 3-shot AEB to Sony and 3,5 or 9 but I wish they had 7; I find I'm scrapping at least 2 frames if I go 9 shots. NBD, this thing is rated for 500k actuations but it's still a pain.

My BIGGER issue is the enormous RAW files; is there not any way to shoot RAW in a smaller file size?!? My 5DmkII, a 10 year old body, allowed for RAW and sRAW and I believe the 5DmkIV has sRAW and mRAW options. It's killing my workflow trying to deal with these huge files! You have options for JPEG file size, why the heck wouldn't you do the same for RAW?

do you really need all that bracketing? You're working with much more powerful raw files now. For the file size, I typically add adobe's dng converter to my workflow for when I dont need/want the file sizes. Canon's s and m raws dont carry the same amount of DR as the full raw, so that's the advantage of the dng converter, that DR should be retained.

https://www.slrlounge.​com …dynamic-range-comparison/

lastly, if permitted, you should try using the E-shutter. If it doesnt cause banding, then you'll have wasted 0 actuations on the mechanical shutter. The read rate is 1/30, so anything slower should not introduce any banding. Tripod, stopped down, your shutter speeds should be slower than that, and if natural light, not an issue.

ericz34 wrote in post #18567728
Quick question everyone.

I have a chance to purchase the a7rii for $1600 used. I’m coming from a 6D canon world. Would the a7rii be a formitable upgrade or should I dish out the money for the a7riii.

Bare in mind I’m not a paid professional, but I do 50/50 photography/video.

for what your shoot, it'll be big. 4K with a tilt screen is a big jump. It's a sluggish camera and playback would be much slower than a 6D, but AF coverage is immense. Lens authority occasionally has them for 1400, a reputable place to buy that camera vs used privately owned, something to consider. Put in an inventory alert even if they have them in stock. Files are more flexible, and generally much sharper images. Not apparent till you compare side by side (I did this with the 70-200ii way back and was pleasantly surprised).

Cascadian wrote in post #18555152
So 2 weeks ago I decided to jump ship and move from Canon to Sony, going from a 5DmkII to the a7Riii. It's a huge leap in technology and I'm loving the image quality. However, I shoot real estate and oftentimes exposure bracket for simplicity. It's great coming from Canon and the 3-shot AEB to Sony and 3,5 or 9 but I wish they had 7; I find I'm scrapping at least 2 frames if I go 9 shots. NBD, this thing is rated for 500k actuations but it's still a pain.

My BIGGER issue is the enormous RAW files; is there not any way to shoot RAW in a smaller file size?!? My 5DmkII, a 10 year old body, allowed for RAW and sRAW and I believe the 5DmkIV has sRAW and mRAW options. It's killing my workflow trying to deal with these huge files! You have options for JPEG file size, why the heck wouldn't you do the same for RAW?

Why would you buy a 42MP camera if raw files that size would “kill your workflow”?

xpfloyd wrote in post #18568359
Why would you buy a 42MP camera if raw files that size would “kill your workflow”?

A puzzler indeed! An a7 II or the upcoming a7 III looks like a better fit.

A reasonable workaround is to shoot with a Sony 10-??mm uwa lens and the a7R III will automatically shoot in super-35 mode and produce beautiful 18MP raw files. I think that would give superior results over Canon’s mraw mode.

xpfloyd wrote in post #18568359
Why would you buy a 42MP camera if raw files that size would “kill your workflow”?

Higher res files mean everything processes slower. Not a big deal if spending a lot of time on a single file, but can be a pain when processing huge batches. It really stood out when processing weddings that I shot with the a9 and a7rii.

But I'll take the higher res files in most cases. It just gives me computer GAS

mystik610 wrote in post #18568526
Higher res files mean everything processes slower. Not a big deal if spending a lot of time on a single file, but can be a pain when processing huge batches. It really stood out when processing weddings that I shot with the a9 and a7rii.

But I'll take the higher res files in most cases. It just gives me computer GAS

Totally get that and feel it too. An a7ii or a9 sounds like it would have been a better fit for them. I just found it odd that you would buy a 42MP camera and then slate the fact the files are large. That’s like buying a Lamborghini and complaining that it’s too fast. Maybe it’s just me?

I actually just realized a huge issue, i was about to purchase an a7rii but realized you guys have the star rating issue...
really need my stars for Astrophotography. It’s a Real bummer. I might keep my 6D for now or look into the 5Dmk4.

ericz34 wrote in post #18567728
Quick question everyone.

I have a chance to purchase the a7rii for $1600 used. I’m coming from a 6D canon world. Would the a7rii be a formitable upgrade or should I dish out the money for the a7riii.

Bare in mind I’m not a paid professional, but I do 50/50 photography/video.

I can only echo what Mike and Eddie have already said ( I too came from a 5d3), the question is do you need the additional AF benefits of the Riii.

ericz34 wrote in post #18568807
I actually just realized a huge issue, i was about to purchase an a7rii but realized you guys have the star rating issue...
really need my stars for Astrophotography. It’s a Real bummer. I might keep my 6D for now or look into the 5Dmk4.

These were taken with a star eater a7rii. The issue is over blown imo

Also Jim kasson has now worked out a workaround that works for a7rii but not 7riii, you put camera in continuos shooting mode and it doesn’t eat stars

Photo from Eddie's gallery.

Photo from Eddie's gallery.

Photo from Eddie's gallery.

ericz34 wrote in post #18568807
I actually just realized a huge issue, i was about to purchase an a7rii but realized you guys have the star rating issue...
really need my stars for Astrophotography. It’s a Real bummer. I might keep my 6D for now or look into the 5Dmk4.

there's a workaround, simply shoot in continuous mode, star eater is never activated.

http://blog.kasson.com …ii-star-eater-workaround/
https://www.lonelyspec​k.com …-shutter-mode-workaround/

Charlie wrote in post #18568905
there's a workaround, simply shoot in continuous mode, star eater is never activated.

http://blog.kasson.com …ii-star-eater-workaround/
https://www.lonelyspec​k.com …-shutter-mode-workaround/

xpfloyd wrote in post #18568879
These were taken with a star eater a7rii. The issue is over blown imo

Also Jim kasson has now worked out a workaround that works for a7rii but not 7riii, you put camera in continuos shooting mode and it doesn’t eat stars

Gallery photo:
posted by Eddie originally in forum: Sony Digital Cameras

Gallery photo:
posted by Eddie originally in forum: Sony Digital Cameras

Gallery photo:
posted by Eddie originally in forum: Sony Digital Cameras

I usually use a tracker.. can I still benifit from continuous shooting with a tracker??
Maybe there is hope after all!

ericz34 wrote in post #18568932
I usually use a tracker.. can I still benifit from continuous shooting with a tracker??
Maybe there is hope after all!

yes as long as you dont go into bulb, then star eater kicks in again.

for non astro, there's very little reason to use bulb with the R2, you can simulate bulb shots with smooth reflections app.

With your tracker I assume you will be over 30secs and therefore you will require bulb mode and will activate star eater, however as I said above I personally think this issue is over blown. Yes you do lose feint stars but it hardly ruins the shots

Gotcha! Thank you. A part of me is now considering the 5dmk4. Just seems like less of a hassle. Definitely not as good as the Sony but I won’t have to deal with new native lenses or adapters.

Cascadian wrote in post #18555152
So 2 weeks ago I decided to jump ship and move from Canon to Sony, going from a 5DmkII to the a7Riii. It's a huge leap in technology and I'm loving the image quality. However, I shoot real estate and oftentimes exposure bracket for simplicity. It's great coming from Canon and the 3-shot AEB to Sony and 3,5 or 9 but I wish they had 7; I find I'm scrapping at least 2 frames if I go 9 shots. NBD, this thing is rated for 500k actuations but it's still a pain.

My BIGGER issue is the enormous RAW files; is there not any way to shoot RAW in a smaller file size?!? My 5DmkII, a 10 year old body, allowed for RAW and sRAW and I believe the 5DmkIV has sRAW and mRAW options. It's killing my workflow trying to deal with these huge files! You have options for JPEG file size, why the heck wouldn't you do the same for RAW?

I am using super 35 for 18MB RAW for daily photos and 42MB RAW for Art photos. I have the custom 3 button for a manual super 35 change. This makes this camera very versatile.