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It looks like the Canon FF MILC is a ways off yet.

 
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Mar 04, 2018 16:59 |  #46

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Talley, I'm pretty sure my MC-11 shoots HI with my Canon lenses on the A7r3. I'll check later, I'm at the local brewery right now.

I'm home. Not drunk either.

OK, so I checked the A7rIII and yup, with the MC-11 and Canon lenses it will operate at full "Hi" speed burst rate.

I have also run the MC-11 with my Sigma 120-300/2.8 Sport in EF mount and it seems to offer full function.


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Mar 04, 2018 17:29 |  #47

JeffreyG wrote in post #18577585 (external link)
I'm home. Not drunk either.

OK, so I checked the A7rIII and yup, with the MC-11 and Canon lenses it will operate at full "Hi" speed burst rate.

I have also run the MC-11 with my Sigma 120-300/2.8 Sport in EF mount and it seems to offer full function.

They operate, but they stop focusing after first shot! If there's a lot of lateral movement, you are ok, but having a kid run towards you, it wont track past the first shot.


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Mar 04, 2018 18:19 |  #48

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They operate, but they stop focusing after first shot! If there's a lot of lateral movement, you are ok, but having a kid run towards you, it wont track past the first shot.

Ah, that's interesting. I'll have to test.

So as I understand it, Sony FE lenses will do the same thing in the 'HI+' setting. So you are suggesting non-native lenses with the MC-11 make "Hi" act like "Hi+".


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Mar 04, 2018 18:42 |  #49

JeffreyG wrote in post #18577631 (external link)
Ah, that's interesting. I'll have to test.

So as I understand it, Sony FE lenses will do the same thing in the 'HI+' setting. So you are suggesting non-native lenses with the MC-11 make "Hi" act like "Hi+".

Sony FE lenses track in all drive settings

Adapted lenses of any kind track with continuous Low setting, and beyond that(M,H,H+), only first frame. I tend to leave set to continuous high and pulse AF rather than switch to low. With 10/8fps I tend to track ok the first 2 frames as long as forward/reverse movement isnt too intense.

most of my lenses are native, but running into these problems from time to time is annoying..... hence why the tamron 28-75 and sigma 135 are very intriguing, 2 out of 3 must have lenses for me. Dont care enough about a 70-200 f2.8, simply too big for me to carry and I avoid at all costs. 35 f2..... honestly not hurting for one but would love to have it.


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Mar 04, 2018 18:46 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #50

Good information.

I did drag along the Sony today. I generally am not a food / drink shooter but I'm often taking my Sony along for stuff these days trying to use it and learn the system. Winter is not a great photography season for me, so I have to invent reasons to shoot.


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Mar 04, 2018 18:50 |  #51

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Talley, I'm pretty sure my MC-11 shoots HI with my Canon lenses on the A7r3. I'll check later, I'm at the local brewery right now.

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Mar 04, 2018 18:57 |  #52

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Good information.

I did drag along the Sony today. I generally am not a food / drink shooter but I'm often taking my Sony along for stuff these days trying to use it and learn the system. Winter is not a great photography season for me, so I have to invent reasons to shoot.
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do you do camera to phone transfers? I occasionally post straight from camera to phone to forum (along with social media). A trick is to shoot Raw + Jpeg small. You'll get MUCH better quality jpegs from the playmemories app, as it uses the small jpeg rather than embedded, which is a pathetic 2mp file. You can do the same with video proxies in the case you want to import high quality 720 video to your phone.


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Mar 04, 2018 19:02 |  #53

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do you do camera to phone transfers? I occasionally post straight from camera to phone to forum (along with social media). A trick is to shoot Raw + Jpeg small. You'll get MUCH better quality jpegs from the playmemories app, as it uses the small jpeg rather than embedded, which is a pathetic 2mp file. You can do the same with video proxies in the case you want to import high quality 720 video to your phone.

Yes, one of the many things I was interested in with newer cameras was this. Obv. not just Sony can do this, but I have the media selection in "my menu" just so I can flip to RAW + JPEG (small) on the different cards and then I can wireless transfer an image to my cell phone to use instantly. It's only one step removed from the convenience of my cell phone camera, and of course the A7rIII can do a lot of things that the iPhone7 camera cannot.


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Mar 04, 2018 19:12 |  #54

JeffreyG wrote in post #18577670 (external link)
Yes, one of the many things I was interested in with newer cameras was this. Obv. not just Sony can do this, but I have the media selection in "my menu" just so I can flip to RAW + JPEG (small) on the different cards and then I can wireless transfer an image to my cell phone to use instantly. It's only one step removed from the convenience of my cell phone camera, and of course the A7rIII can do a lot of things that the iPhone7 camera cannot.

Might as well leave it there permanently unless it screws up your import workflow. I can’t remember how Lightroom behaves, with C1, I can filter out ARW’s in the import filter ultra fast to avoid jpegs. Keeps clutter to a minimum.

One issue I notice with the iPhone is that it pairs poorly with the app. More fiddling than android but then again, android version doesn’t support v8....... kind of pathetic.

Does the iPhone 7 have NFC? I’m rocking an old 5s, and it honestly sucks, might need the X when it drops in price..... can’t go back to android unfortunately.


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Mar 04, 2018 19:16 |  #55

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One issue I notice with the iPhone is that it pairs poorly with the app. More fiddling than android but then again, android version doesn’t support v8....... kind of pathetic.

You got that right. It's a bit of a fumble every time to re-connect the iPhone and the Sony.


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Mar 04, 2018 20:41 |  #56

my only solution is to go native... but convert my sigma glass to E mount via sigmas conversion service. I think it would be cheaper to do that than to sell/rebuy later.

I think this is the selling point of the E mount sigmas... it says "full focusing speed".


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Mar 05, 2018 08:21 |  #57

Talley wrote in post #18577752 (external link)
my only solution is to go native... but convert my sigma glass to E mount via sigmas conversion service. I think it would be cheaper to do that than to sell/rebuy later.

I think this is the selling point of the E mount sigmas... it says "full focusing speed".

I'd wait to do the mount conversion until there are some tests comparing a native mount Sigma versus a converted mount Sigma. My understanding the native mount Sigma has modifications for AF speed and those modifications might be more than just a new mount, but it might also involve new motors etc...




  
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Mar 05, 2018 08:34 |  #58

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I'd wait to do the mount conversion until there are some tests comparing a native mount Sigma versus a converted mount Sigma. My understanding the native mount Sigma has modifications for AF speed and those modifications might be more than just a new mount, but it might also involve new motors etc...

Sigma already makes some lenses for E-mount, and we can probably get an idea of how future lenses perform by looking at those.

The sigma 30 for example, looks like it has a built in tube adapter.

I know the 135A tracks really well.... for the first frame  :p. It works generally fine with both R2 and R3 bodies, even for mildly low light 1.8 1/125 6400. I'de be happy with said performance as long as I can get the full 10 fps all the way through, I just hate fiddling with restrictions.


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Mar 05, 2018 09:34 |  #59

exactly... I'm waiting for the E mounts to hit the streets and get real use. If they enable 10fps continuously just like native then I'm sending my glass off to get converted.


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