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Mar 03, 2018 11:12 |  #1

I'm a busy guy,I came here and joined a good while back,you guys talked me through some gear choices and I set off learning about image making,ha ha I'm still learning about image making and probably always will be. I want to say thank you for that help,so it's high time I shared a few images by way of thanks for that help.

I 'm a nature nut always seemed to be able to bumble into situations where I can be with my beloved wildlife this started really as a child. Often i'm able to get fairly close so I wanted a means of sharing that and showing folks that hare or deer of whatever. so I got a 1div and a 300f2.8is and some ext iii s I upgraded the 300 to a 400 DO is ii fairly recently. Mainly because the older lens is unsupported ,a mate had his switch plate fail twice the last time he was told that's thelast in EU ,which sort of made me move,I loved my old lens

As I say my thang is nature,I'm maybe slightly left field believeing a can crawl up to a wild hare and if I get my craft right she'll let me be part of her world for a while,bringing a camera into that has been fun. I adore hares in particular,here they are seeped in our folklore,which is suprising because this animal is not a native of my little island. I simply can't get enough of them. i'm more a stalker than a waiter but use both methods with hares.

Mum hare has a litter and then when they are a few weeks old pops them out in different places,mainly to avoid loosing the whole litter to predation I guess. So i've had this dream for a while now ,that I could find a kidlet,they are called leverets here just after mum drops it off,and if I put in the hours that kid would grow knowing me as a usual part of her environment. Mum visists these young leverets once a day to nurse,so I felt this might be a really good way in to a young hare's life. This I finally achieved last spring and man has it been a blast. My only issue is I work way too much,I'd love to really do this properly,but needs must and I like good tools which lets face it in this game are expensive. so i've basically focused on a favourite subject and got me head down. I do make images of wild deer birds etc but thee last months the hares have my focus

I hand held but also occassionally use a little hi hat tripod made by induro. when stalking,I basically stay very low use full camo face mask gloves etc etc to try and make me resemble a human as little as possible. I start shooting images way too early from too far away,so my hare gradually hear's the shutter getting louder and becomes used to it. Ha ha ,well ya know that's how it's meant to work,they aren't easy I fail a lot but not always:-)

I got lucky with two leverets actually I call them Taz and Blaze,let's start with a couple of them, and the odd other leveret, if I can get the images sorted. I'm not great with computers have only just upgraded PC to be able to use PSCC so some of these might have only been processed in Canon's own global programme DPP . i'll link from my flickr for the moment for convenience

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That'll do for the moment,sorry for the rather long ramble I'm very much learning the ropes !! Most of my images aren't cropped or if so very little,i'm trying very slowly to learn how to frame a picture at shutterpress,as one looses detail when cropping

I've spent hours reading and learning from you guys I hope you enjoy. i'm seriously open to critique ,I want to be the best I can be

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Mar 03, 2018 12:03 |  #2

Great images Stu..............that'​s what I call getting close to your subject!


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Mar 04, 2018 13:10 as a reply to  @ Vintage Racer's post |  #3

Buddy could I ask for your first name please? thanks for the kind words . I've had them so close if I had a WA I'd have been able to use it,touching distance, seriously at times my jaw has dropped. I felt when I started because i'm not rich in money terms,hugely in many others,this thing I have with animals was my way in. Wildlife image making is so often about reach,especially smaller subjects. I felt when I started I couldn't have a 500 but I could get past that,least ways sometimes,not every time!! What I didn't see coming was shutter noise,that aspect has always messed with me still does,it's part of the DO story. ive learnt at times I should stay further back, which,doesn't help when they come to see me,it's curiousity,but slowly i'm learning the hows and whys

But yes get close don't crop, is sort of my mantra.

One has to really think about subject well fare,I don't want them to be tame to humans buddy,just to except the clicky thing that scrubbles around as not being a threat. Once stalking I try not to show them me as a human shape,hopefully wind will take me scent away.
I try to present the smallest possible profile,to be as insignificant as possible.
Many humans would take these here in blighty buddy, my spot was hit recently by guys with dogs...carnage!! I try to be incredibly careful doing something like this with young leverets they need to fear humans. A hare is built for flight their primary defence against predation.

Sure I want to be "in their world know them ,not only because I find them amazing,but also I figure if I can get in their heads I might have a bigger chance of capturing their spirit with this painting with light malarky. But I try in me own little way to think about their wellfare and how what I do might affect them.

Thanks for the reply .

also cheers for the likes from others

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Mar 06, 2018 15:13 as a reply to  @ Sounds's post |  #4

some more for you:

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Mar 16, 2018 03:45 as a reply to  @ Sounds's post |  #5

Great job Stu, your perseverance and effort have paid off.


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Mar 19, 2018 07:54 |  #6

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Great job Stu, your perseverance and effort have paid off.

Wow, you are just up the road from me,how cool what's your name please buddy. They are a complete obsession mate, here are a few more

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Mar 19, 2018 13:19 |  #7

Hi Stu
Great to see your fantastic Hare shots here on POTN too - are you doing this to make me even more jealous mate :p

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Mar 19, 2018 15:40 |  #8

ha ha hi bro,too kind mate,mind those kingies are cool buddy,I think we are all jealous of each other if I'm honest Russ.so much nature so little time .

I am clattered with man flu mate:oops: so haven't been able to play much,but got a small in frame hunkered down sun snow blizzardy thing friday laid up since then ,mind I shouldn't have gone out at all really. These mad weather conditions are a dream to play making images with,just wish it was a bit easier on the old bones tis all It's a shame Russ because there is much to chase right now and I'd loved to have got a full day in with them it's been glorious here today

cheers kiddo dunno about fantastic a work in progress Russ:-) great fun though buddy wish they were doing better so more of us got these chances. We've lost so many it's a rare thing to see what we do at this little spot,but even they have been hit hard

I count my self as very very lucky Russ

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Mar 30, 2018 10:06 |  #9

Hey, Stu!

I have really enjoyed this Hare thread of yours. I've been following it for weeks and I figured it's time I should speak up and say something.

I am also a lover of Lagomorphs. In early November I spend three days in South Dakota just for the chance to photograph Cottontail Rabbits. Then at the end of November I went to Utah for three days to photograph Desert Cottontails. So I can certainly understand your obsession with these critters because I am obsessed myself.

And then in the summertime we have Pikas to chase around and photograph. They are in the same family, and boy oh boy, what an obsession they are, as well!

In your last post you mentioned snow blizzards. I am wondering if you have been able to capture these Hares in the snow? Do you get much snow where they are, or is it something that only happens rarely?

Oh, and another thing I have meant to ask, what country are you in?

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Apr 02, 2018 14:57 |  #10

Hello Tom how are you good sir:-)?(i'm only just starting here;-)a I wanted to have posted more by now but ya know time ....)

Tom point me to some of your wabitt images please, would that be ok. I'd adore seeing them mate I really would,I'll lay a bet you'll make me want to try harder too:-) !!

Tom I live between two villages right smack bang in the middle of England,the original one UK. I'm about 3/4 of an hour south of Birmingham.

Our weather is all over the place Tom,the damage we are doing to our environment means global warming has changed much here. In my childhood snow was a regular,now we barely see it. All that said and done this winter we have had some snow ,it's years since we had some before this here.. So tom I've tried to really get at it ,if humanly possible. The first fall I missed Canon said they would supply me a 6K lens in a given time frame they simply lied,so I missed that one bro,got a drive by of one of my hares boundiing through the snow,betwixt jobs work not quite the same thing though..... ya know.......... snow........... I wanted to be on the deck infront of him/her not grafting me sox off with no lens.but hey ho she's (lens) is here now .


Tom, blighty falls to bits when it snows,our travel gets overwhelmed,I guess we simply have lost our ability to function ,like other countries do,whom see snow year in year out. As a guy who would like to be a wildlife image maker,it's a depth(in an image) unexplored to me mate. I love adore, what are the words, to convey falling snow in am image.

But i'm not proficient. I have had two chances Tom with a hare in falling snow. Both occassions i'd got out before the real event hit,so no real snow on the ground. It's been extreme here this year mate, really so,they called one the beast from the east,we were stuck here for a few days,the effect on some wildlife will be huge,said with huge sadness!!

So we got two chances,one is a drive by come back dump van sneak the rest which i'll show in a mo. Another which I referred to above to Russ I simply haven't got to yet. tom i'm a slow old thing with digi,give me a lickle animal in a field and I understand a bit,not so much digital. The other thing you know well,if one is striving for something and willing to try a bit,sooner or later one is sifting through x no of similar images. Tom I struggle to pick these nuances out what is the best to my eye ,is a work in progress.So I simply haven't processed the second stalk yet and decided what I really want to keep.

Buddy,this is taken with my 400DO is II,I spotted her as the wind started to scream,drove past went a good way away then came back downhill slow and quiet. My lady is always with me Tom we are two halves,her eyes beat binos in most hands,she sees first. Your not she said in disbelief as I scrambled for gloves face cover hat, she thought I was completely mad It wasn't much snow bro not like the real stuff you guys probably get, but on that wind it was brutal and screaming,holwling. All I could see was a chance in falling white stuff nowt else,sod the bit of wind and cold!!

Tom, when one is there on the soil ,with these guys in the cold,don't you get this rush of respect for them how they survive,it's truly humbling.!!!!

Anyways mate, I must go, hard day far away tomorrow,canon 1Div 400DO is ii ext 1.4 iii HH lying down gradually slowly moving right, but the squall was gone too soon. I was also playing techs experimenting with dof ss and falling white stuff that wind was evil it would be a breeze probably to you,but WOW. These images come largely from the Cotswolds Tom, it's elevated............ a limestone escarpment,two coats colder up there !! The image is uncropped as framed processed in dpp 4 and then PS, all a learning curve. 1/1250 f6.3 iso 6400

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must dash buddy cool to hear from you,i'd really love to see some of your cotton tails really would!! It's sort of mad Tom this brown hare is not native, yet it is seeped in my countries folklore few animals attract that type of mystery/majesty


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Apr 04, 2018 15:05 |  #11

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Tom point me to some of your wabitt images please, would that be ok . . .

. . . i'd really love to see some of your cotton tails really would!!

Ok.

Here is a Cottontail in the snow. . Species unknown, as three different Cottontail species overlap in the area where I took this in South Dakota this past October. . The three species interbreed, so it is most likely a hybrid.


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This one (below) is a Desert Cottontail that I took in November in Utah. . Desert Cottontail are the only species of Cottontail to live there, so I am sure that is what species it is.


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Around here where I live in Washington, we also have lots of Snowshoe Hares, which I love. . And up at high elevation in the rocks we have Pika, which are rabbit relatives (in the Lagomorpha family). . There are also Pygmy Rabbits, which are extremely rare, and have been extirpated from almost all of their original range. . I have never seen one, but hope to one day.


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I'd adore seeing them mate I really would . . .

Unfortunately, I don't have any photos of them mating .... at least not yet.

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It's been extreme here this year mate, really so, they called one the beast from the east, we were stuck here for a few days, the effect on some wildlife will be huge, said with huge sadness!!

Tom, when one is there on the soil ,with these guys in the cold, don't you get this rush of respect for them how they survive, it's truly humbling.!!!!

It is amazing how most wildlife have no problem with snow at all. . For many, it isn't a hardship for them, nor a challenge, as they get along in snow just as well as they get along when there is none. . They are made to survive in it and they seem to relish it while it is around. . Snow even allows some species, such as rabbits and hares, to access food that they wouldn't be able to reach without the snow. . I don't think there is any need to be sad for the animals - they seem to be quite fond of the snow, even when it is of significant depth.

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That is a spectacular image, Stu! . I love it!

You did so well not to have the snow blocking her eyeball. . You also lined that falling snow up with a very nice, distraction-free background, so that it shows up so clearly. . It's just such a well done wildlife image!

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These images come largely from the Cotswolds Tom, it's elevated............ a limestone escarpment, two coats colder up there !!

Elevated .... colder ..... that sounds like my kind of place! . I bet I would love being there. . I am always trying to get up higher where it is colder and there is more snow and ice. . Absolutely love that stuff!


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Apr 05, 2018 13:24 |  #12

As I've possibly mentioned,most of these images come from a limestone escarpment called the Cotswolds. The soil is thin here and always broken with scree(small rocks stones ),which as you can imagine are pretty hard on my old bones. At times when things have been really good stalking wise I get wrapped up in the moment,and only realise later that the skin on elbows and knees is no longer in place. I'm focusing on that scree for a reason,no not my hardship,but something I have never seen a more lowland brown hare do.

The hares use these stones to scratch their backs,it's breif,i've seen tiny things do it,so not just adults. It's a devil of a job to catch as it's not like a dog or horse havin' a good ol' roll tis fast !!

I'm as sure as I can be, these stones that rip me to bits,with layers an stuff,good gear,are just a back scratchers to a hare. Again it's humbling, man these guys are tough, proper little hard cases; barely no mum roll around on the rox-)

I've got in via long grass, so ii'm making the image from seated to grab a clear view. HH off knees cropped. This back sratching oft happens during stretch sessions at waking...are they ever really asleep?? But they just randomly do it aswell . This fella was caught last summer, maize is sown as a cover crop for game birds,ha the hares are about to flock to it.

I was talking to a friend here recently he is more widely traveed than I but shares my love of ol bigears. We mused these guys are slightly diffrent to what we see elsewhere even the one's,I see at home . Maybe, there is a infancy of a race in the 'wolds. Their ears seem slightly smaller and they have this sort of pink colour. I'm theorising here no science base but interesting to hear my friends words


Which ties back to this image ,in some ways the way the hare blends is unfortunate, image wise, but they blend so well into this particular soil type it's really stunning. They are so hard to see,one get's ones eyes in sure,but that natural camo is something special .
Ok brown hare's roll who knew:-) Canon 1divi 300f2.8is 2x extiii


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ps wrote this last night fell asleep before posting:oops:

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Apr 05, 2018 15:09 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #13

Wow thanks Tom, it is so rare for me to make images in falling snow it was a breif chance but I tried to wring as much as possible out of it and learn!! Once I'd got to the fella,I took alot of frames really working the the DOF trying to learn as much as possible. I didn't consider the snow over the eye but I learnt once I got home ,I covered it by accident,lots of frames:lol:

But yes I know that gem for next time,it's a fabulous point to make Tom folks like me whom don't get that many chances in falling snow might not consider this.But in the wrong place a drop of white would kill this,I would defintely be a bit more trigger happy than normal,if the chance came again

Tom thanks for the images,I know nothing of them really, so the notes about the 3 species in one area are fascinating to me. tis funny I haven't really read a lot about our hare tom,i normally tend to when i'm interested,most of what I know is what I am seeing and then trying to fathom(work out). I love the second that pink ish hued bkg and those ears,that's a lovely portrait Tom the snowy is cool to but i'm drawn to the second. Tom you have jackrabbit's which are true hares,these cotton tails are smaller is that right. Is the snowshoe bigger than the cotton tail's

We have a rabbit,brought by the Romans(???) I have no idea where it originally came from,it looks more like your top image,I don't photograph them that oft i'll try and find some kids,too cute. Our rabbit liives underground breeds there. The kits are tiny helpless pink things at birth. The hares above are big by comparison maybe double the size.Leverets are born much more fully developed. They never go below ground their only means of defence is flight.

Tom I'm not traveled my images are mostly made within an hour of home,my patch. My island is tiny compared to the big ol US of A. We have no apex predators,I beleive I am correct in saying that this brown hare is our fasted land mammal. They oft live in our big fields(which would be tiny to yours) and funnily enough inhabit woodland too. One in full flight is a sight Tom,they stretch constantly always ready to bolt.

Tom the Cotswolds is an area of outstanding natural beauty designated so. It's rolling soft hills and valley's are not of the height of our heather uplands,it's full of these stunning quintisentially English villages,made out of a honey coloured stone ,dug from the ground. This stone is what you are seeing above ,it weathers and ages into the environment it was built from so well. it isn't mountainous but the winds feels like it is at times.Tom have you heard the expression a lazy wind,doesn't go round you it goes right through.

.It's probably not your cold,but yes you would love it. :-) the beasties are ok too ;-)a

Oh Tom,the way I talk,write will mean at times I will confuse,by being vague or simply how I am....... inept,please forgive. Sure although we speak the same language every now and the ere are differences. pluuuuuuus .... Tom my brain is not wired for the English language ,it is what it is I can't change it it's fun at times though............ I was calling you friend ie mate. not referring to copulating hares lol that said maybe a comma in the right place might have helped:oops: sorry Tom my bad !!! I use the word mate insessantly,I work with stangers all the time ,one can't remember all the names,so we use the word mate /ie friend

But it's made us both laugh. No I wasn't asking for your hare porn Tom, I'm English we are far too polite to ask for such things :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Here's that little tiny thing We called Taz,mum drops kidlet off,she comes back once a day to nurse. so who teaches the little leveret what tastes nice I think these couple of frames are me watching a baby go around a whole set of plants trying them out,her face was a picture at times,you could almost see her going UGG, i'm not eating that again 2nd pic

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Apr 16, 2018 14:17 |  #14

A rare sight ,sadly in blighty,a kidlet in a wildflower meadow and a bit of me in there with the fun aspect;-)a

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Oh and for a change a fella from closer to home

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May 14, 2018 13:31 |  #15

A few more sorry it's been so long ,I have so little time,and naturally for someone that loves the doing of this image making lark, if I can find any spare time, i'm trying for more and to be better. I'm still very slow with proocessing ,so essentially am not yet keeping up with my own production.


this day was momorable because of the sheer number of hares We got to try and make an image of.......

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this next one is my mate Blaze,again a wonderful encounter,I spent nearly Two whole hours yards from him,frankly I had to slink off for a break :rolleyes:,I could barely hold my head up. Evenso he still let me come back and this is part of that later set,the light was going and we grabbed this right towards the end,he was so confiding.

It's surprising I 'm absolutely shattered as I try to find something to share,the memories are so fresh

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Taz,same evening,she and Blaze seemed to grow up together even at this stage where one was found ,often the other wasn't so far away

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Thanks for looking, I'm off to try and sort through images,man I struggle with sorting out my exploits photographically.

take care

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