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Mar 08, 2018 11:18 |  #31

One of my biggest concerns is OCF and Speedlight use

Im all Godox

The X1 trigger for sony will trigger the 360's and the 600's but there has been reported problems for shooting in AV modes. Im a huge AV mode shooter and the OCF set ups with canon and Godox is bulletproof....Maybe not so much with Sony

also I have 6 V860 speedlights that I use all day ling at weddings. Some are gels, some are not. I can put them in the hotshoe and I can put them in pro s brackets and trigger with X1.......im going to loose some of this with a switch where as with a 5D4 it s seemless

So Flash systems is something else to consider


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Mar 08, 2018 11:26 |  #32

I’m all ad200. Just need to get the Sony pro trigger and a couple v860iis simply sell the same in canon and buy the Sony.

The 85 1.8 is a definite purchase. If I do stick and go with Sony then the wife will have the a73 and the 85 1.8 will be hers mostly but our travel portrait lens.

One minor complaint. Why can’t they have an auto locking battery door like canon. Slam shut it’s done with canon but Sony and Fuji have to manually close the switch. Ugh.

More I think about what I want more I keep eyeing that 24-105.


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Mar 08, 2018 11:56 |  #33

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Mystic I ask such questions because often enough I feel like throwing my Fuji XT2 against the wall when !AF indicator tells me the Fuji cannot find focus. I’m not about to manually correct failing af.

I’m dipping into Sony simply for fun and to experience first hand if it fits my style. I still feel canon is a trusted tool due to familiarity and rock solid AF. Fuji in some cases fail for me and a fail is a fail....this is why Fuji will never be my primary system ... heavier canon bodies never turn me down in any situation and I can probably say Nikon dslr shooters feel the same.

In time if Sony plays nice with me I’d need to ultimately go native glass.

I can’t wait to play with a new system!

Yeah no AF issues with native glass at all....even in piss-poor light.

Adapted glass actually pretty well too, but it again it depends on the lens. Faster glass and wider focal lengths adapt best.


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Mar 08, 2018 12:05 |  #34

umphotography wrote in post #18580401 (external link)
One of my biggest concerns is OCF and Speedlight use

Im all Godox

The X1 trigger for sony will trigger the 360's and the 600's but there has been reported problems for shooting in AV modes. Im a huge AV mode shooter and the OCF set ups with canon and Godox is bulletproof....Maybe not so much with Sony

also I have 6 V860 speedlights that I use all day ling at weddings. Some are gels, some are not. I can put them in the hotshoe and I can put them in pro s brackets and trigger with X1.......im going to loose some of this with a switch where as with a 5D4 it s seemless

So Flash systems is something else to consider

I'm all godox too. A couple 860II's, paid of ad200's and an a6000. No issue in AV mode.


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Mar 08, 2018 12:43 as a reply to  @ mystik610's post |  #35

That sounds fantastic!!


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Mar 08, 2018 18:23 |  #36

mystik610 wrote in post #18580432 (external link)
I'm all godox too. A couple 860II's, paid of ad200's and an a6000. No issue in AV mode.


That I great news. I will assume that I will need 860's for Sony but keeping fingers crossed that the X1 will trigger the canon speedlights in Radio mode


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Mar 08, 2018 18:32 |  #37

another good review. Look at the 20K iso F/4 @ 1/60 hand held :love::love::love::love:
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Mar 08, 2018 18:46 |  #38

umphotography wrote in post #18580654 (external link)
another good review. Look at the 20K iso F/4 @ 1/60 hand held :love::love::love::love:
http://www.albertdros.​com …III-Hands-On-Review-Tests (external link)


Those images look terrible even with IBIS how can people even use such a camera????  :p :p :p

Can't wait to get an A7iii in my gearbag :)


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Mar 08, 2018 18:48 |  #39

Sigma adapted focus is fast but no servo past first or second frame.

Only sports tracking options are native Sony glass I feel is true.


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Mar 08, 2018 19:00 |  #40

Talley wrote in post #18580665 (external link)
Sigma adapted focus is fast but no servo past first or second frame.

Only sports tracking options are native Sony glass I feel is true.

Do you have an mc-11? I've been playing with the new firmware and the 135 1.8 tracks really nicely at 10fps.


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Mar 08, 2018 19:03 |  #41

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Do you have an mc-11? I've been playing with the new firmware and the 135 1.8 tracks really nicely at 10fps.


I guess a Metabone will be a poor performer with my Canon glass for servo....??

Not my type of shooting anyways. If I like sony I'll be buying some native glass anyways...


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Mar 08, 2018 19:30 |  #42

Canon digital user here, but I shot for years on film with a Minolta Maxxum, and I am the definition of.a non-fanboi.

I go round and round on the Sony question, but what holds me back is the cost of Sony glass. I simply cannot stand dealing with the deficiencies of adapters that only sorta work. It's like buying a Porsche Carrera and slapping on hundred dollar tires from the discount tire store down the street. Unless I see an adapter with near native performance (and maybe it will happen one or these days), I simplify can't justify paying so much more for native Sony glass versus the excellent Canon glass that I have.


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Mar 08, 2018 19:37 as a reply to  @ Scrumhalf's post |  #43

I am right there with you Sam. However with the A7III being the price of the 6D but blowing it away in so many areas, it might be worth trying out that body and learning the Sony way with it, while using an adapter. That is my current plan, but I keep thinking I will just break down and go straight to the A9.


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Mar 08, 2018 19:45 |  #44

AlanU wrote in post #18580674 (external link)
I guess a Metabone will be a poor performer with my Canon glass for servo....??

Not my type of shooting anyways. If I like sony I'll be buying some native glass anyways...

limited to 3fps and will generally work ok in that capacity.

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Canon digital user here, but I shot for years on film with a Minolta Maxxum, and I am the definition of.a non-fanboi.

I go round and round on the Sony question, but what holds me back is the cost of Sony glass. I simply cannot stand dealing with the deficiencies of adapters that only sorta work. It's like buying a Porsche Carrera and slapping on hundred dollar tires from the discount tire store down the street. Unless I see an adapter with near native performance (and maybe it will happen one or these days), I simplify can't justify paying so much more for native Sony glass versus the excellent Canon glass that I have.

ask yourself why would you even switch in the first place?

interested in small size?

10 fps?

With the money you've already sunk into photography, you can get yourself some sony gear for sure. Cant afford it, rent it along with an adapter. Rent the A9 if you want to see the utmost ability with adapted lenses, or an all around package in the A7r3. You have a bunch of lenses I'm assuming, so rent either MC-11 or Metabones.


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Mar 08, 2018 19:51 |  #45

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I am right there with you Sam. However with the A7III being the price of the 6D but blowing it away in so many areas, it might be worth trying out that body and learning the Sony way with it, while using an adapter. That is my current plan, but I keep thinking I will just break down and go straight to the A9.

Sony A7iii is $2599 CDN. I sure wish I was able to buy a Sony A7iii for $2000 cdn!!! That'd be cheap!

TS, if I were you I would just stick with Canon for your application. Canon with native glass will just work with no issues whatsoever. Unless you go all Sony for sports.

In my case I shoot Fuji for my secondary system. I am willing to use a metabone adapter with Canon glass for non sports application which apparently seems to work well. In time if I like Sony I'll throw some native glass in the mix like a Batis 25mm f/2, 85 f/1.8. This will be a fun experiment for me as I will not complain about having a camera with killer low light performance.

My Canon system is heavier but i never regret the results I get.


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