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Mar 13, 2018 22:31 |  #46

While we are all telling the OP what he should do, why not provide a complete package?

Who should he vote for?
What religion if any should he follow?
What kind of car should he buy?
What should his diet be?


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Mar 14, 2018 00:50 |  #47

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While we are all telling the OP what he should do, why not provide a complete package?

Who should he vote for?
What religion if any should he follow?
What kind of car should he buy?
What should his diet be?

MODS! MODS!!

Choderboy brought religion into the forum!!


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Mar 14, 2018 02:20 |  #48

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MODS! MODS!!

Choderboy brought religion into the forum!!

Don't forget politics!


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Mar 14, 2018 02:36 |  #49

Damned if you do, damned if you don't on here anyway.
I was called a fool on these forums for fixing my 100-400 myself ('I SHOULD' have sent it to Canon...)

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Mar 14, 2018 04:35 |  #50

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Damned if you do, damned if you don't on here anyway.
I was called a fool on these forums for fixing my 100-400 myself ('I SHOULD' have sent it to Canon...)

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Nice! now if you want real DIY, you can't go much past me putting a new shutter into a 1D2... :lol:


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Mar 14, 2018 05:59 |  #51

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Nice! now if you want real DIY, you can't go much past me putting a new shutter into a 1D2... :lol:

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Yeah, years ago I would have tried that, lost my nerve.


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Mar 14, 2018 17:14 |  #52

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So what should the OP do in the case of the video Tom linked:
(one of the scews had material on the threads, ie whatever the screw screws into)
Should the OP just be happy with 3 screws instead of 4?
See how easy it is:https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=k5E3SqtdMeA (external link)

This response doesn't make sense to me, because the OP doesn't have a broken screw. . I just used that video because it was the only one I could find quickly that showed a Canon mount being removed.

I wanted to show the OP how utterly simple it is to take a mount off and put one back on. . If you ignore the broken screw (which isn't an issue for the OP) the video shows that anyone could do this in just a minute or two with nothing more than an eyeglass screwdriver ..... which is the point I was trying to make.


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Mar 14, 2018 18:14 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #53

The problem is nothing you have said so far is actually relevant to my situation. If my mount was the only thing on the lens that broke because I tried to mount it wrong or something then it would be one thing. The fact is the camera AND lens FELL. F. E. L. L. While mounted together and broke one mount while bending another making the camera inoperable with any other lens I own. My fear was that it would not focus correctly if I tried to fix it myself and that was NOT a chance I was willing to take. Removing and replacing a simple mount on a lens is absolutely a simple process. This was not all that needed to be done to mine unfortunately.


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Mar 14, 2018 18:44 as a reply to  @ shaunmcfd's post |  #54

My 1D4 and 17-40 got thrown across a tarmac road - wasn't dropped, didn't fall - it was launched! I was lucky and everything was fine. Just because your gear has had a bump does not necessarily mean that there is any critical damage.

I was merely suggesting that the lens mount is a very simple fix to do yourself. Then you can see is all is OK with the lens without paying a small fortune on the off chance. If there are still problems then the labour (and much of the parts) costs of a new mount have been avoided - downside?


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Mar 14, 2018 18:44 |  #55

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The problem is nothing you have said so far is actually relevant to my situation. If my mount was the only thing on the lens that broke because I tried to mount it wrong or something then it would be one thing. The fact is the camera AND lens FELL. F. E. L. L. While mounted together and broke one mount while bending another making the camera inoperable with any other lens I own. My fear was that it would not focus correctly if I tried to fix it myself and that was NOT a chance I was willing to take. Removing and replacing a simple mount on a lens is absolutely a simple process. This was not all that needed to be done to mine unfortunately.

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But I believe that the lens mount is the only thing that is truly broken, to the point of needing to be replaced, and that the other parts that Canon wants to replace would actually continue to perform ok. . Just because something is not completely up to specifications does not mean that replacing it is essential.

It's like when you take your car into the shop and they say that there are these things that are broken that need to be replaced, and you say, "no thanks", and never do the repairs, ever, and yet the car continues to run for tens of thousands of miles with no problems, despite the "broken" parts that it has. . Like my check engine light being on for over 100,000 miles and I never bother to have it checked out. . Or that horrible grinding sound in my one Corolla that persisted for years and I never did anything about. . Or the time they said that I needed new spark plug wires. . Or the time they said I needed a new pair of ignition coils. . Or the time they said I desperately needed 2 new struts ..... so I drove on the old ones for another 150,000 miles!

Or another example would be the miniscus tear in my left knee that the doctor wants me to have surgery on, and the torn rotator cuff in my left shoulder. . Yeah, these parts aren't just right, but I can still hike up a hill and carry a heavy camera around all day and paint the house and build stone walls and get dead people up onto a gurney even when they're over 200 pounds. . I will not have the repairs done, and yet I still function and do the things that I need to do.

Do I believe that my rotator cuff really is torn? . Of course I do - no doubt about it. . Do I think my miniscus has a tear? . Yes, absolutely. . But do they need to be fixed? . Heck no, because I can still do my jobs despite their condition.

In all of the aforementioned instances, just because an expert says that something needs to be replaced doesn't necessarily mean that it really does.

And so it is with your camera.

I bet if you just left those broken parts inside it would still take perfect pictures and it would still autofocus perfectly and would do everything just like it did before the drop.

Some people have some need for everything to be "just right", while others only care if it works or not. . I couldn't care less about "peace of mind", because to me that's just B.S. . All that matters is if the tool can still do the job or not. . If peace of mind is something that is important to you, then we will never see eye to eye on this camera repair issue.

As you said earlier, we'll just have to agree to disagree ..... if that's agreeable to you ;-)a

In an earlier post, you said that my posts genuinely confuse you. . I hope that the explanations and comparisons that I have written here help to alleviate some of that confusion. . I think that you and I have totally different value systems and priorities, and that is probably why we see this camera repair from two very different perspectives.


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Mar 14, 2018 18:46 |  #56

Choderboy wrote in post #18585056 (external link)
So what should the OP do in the case of the video Tom linked:
(one of the scews had material on the threads, ie whatever the screw screws into)
Should the OP just be happy with 3 screws instead of 4?
See how easy it is:https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=k5E3SqtdMeA (external link)

Please read the first line of my post. "I can't comment about the camera repairs as I simply have never done any!"

Perhaps you may wish to modify/delete your post?


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Mar 14, 2018 22:15 |  #57

Pretty silly discussion from my perspective... If someone isn't comfortable replacing or fixing something, and wants to pay someone else to do it correctly, who cares? Each of us have different skills than others, some of us may be mechanical, some are artistic, etc. It is one thing to simply point out how to do a repair, it is another to constantly argue against one's discomfort of doing that work. It is what it is. Perhaps Canon can use the added revenue in better features the next model announcement. :)

I guess we could now start this over on FM with a member there?

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Mar 14, 2018 23:04 |  #58

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I guess we could now start this over on FM with a member there?

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/15353​02 (external link)

Hey, that person's username is JTaylor996.

I wonder if that could be THE Joy Taylor! . Wouldn't that be so cool if it was her?!

Anyway, sounds like their camera just needs a little quick fix with the mount switcharoo.

But the lens - they say the zoom ring is completely stuck. . That sounds like something that you need some kind of skills or experience to fix, and of course it is something that would need to be fixed if one wants to use it as a zoom lens and not just use it at whatever focal length it is stuck at now. . If I were them I would try to force it loose with pliers or a pipe wrench, with padding over the jaws, of course. . And of course you'd need it mounted securely in a vice in order to properly use the pliers/wrench. . But if that failed to dislodge the ring, or made it worse, then I'd either send it in to Canon or have a guy at a local camera repair shop give it a go.

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Mar 15, 2018 01:02 |  #59

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Please read the first line of my post. "I can't comment about the camera repairs as I simply have never done any!"

Perhaps you may wish to modify/delete your post?

Then you said :
"I was merely suggesting that the lens mount is a very simple fix to do yourself."


So can you comment about repairs or not? I'm getting mixed messages.


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Mar 15, 2018 17:28 |  #60

Choderboy wrote in post #18585937 (external link)
Then you said :
"I was merely suggesting that the lens mount is a very simple fix to do yourself."

So can you comment about repairs or not? I'm getting mixed messages.

I said the lens mount is a very simple repair because I have replaced one, I have never yet replaced parts/repaired a camera.
Hope that is clearer.

It looks, however, like the mount on the camera body is even easier to replace - though I have yet to do one.


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