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I've switched to Sony twice. Hated it. Now I'm thinking about doing it a third time.

 
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Mar 18, 2018 10:11 |  #46

I've done much the same as the OP, having tried the Sony system twice with the A7R and then the A7R II, and ended up keeping my Canon gear both times. However, I could see the benefits of the Sony system (EVF, dynamic range, high ISO performance, eye AF, smaller form factor) and decided to give the A7R III a try. I was very pleased to find that Sony has fixed the biggest problems from the earlier cameras - crappy menu system, really crappy AF, and even crappier battery life. After using the camera for a few days, I bought the FE 100-400mm GM lens, and the A7R III + 100-400 GM combo actually outperformed my 5D IV + 100-400L IS II in my backyard focusing tests. To make a long story short, my Canon 5DsR and 5D IV are now gone, and a Sony A9 and a few more lenses are on their way to me this week.


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Mar 18, 2018 10:54 |  #47

Quadwing,

Maybe you should just consider the A7Riii. It's currently available and it'll give you the high MP count you want. Slap on the Sigma MC-11 and your ready to go with your 24-70Lmk2. I'm getting the A7iii because it's the sweetspot in megapixels IMO. If I really fall in love with Sony I'll consider the A7Rmk4 in the future LOL!!

I'd say go for the Sony and just buy it!

Give us feedback and maybe your next post will be....

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Mar 19, 2018 09:21 |  #48

quadwing wrote in post #18588359 (external link)
There may be a partial case of GAS here, but it's overwhelmed by my need for something a little better. I'm okay with my 5D4, but I'm looking at other options too.

I'd suggest you identify specific features you want/need from the Sony, if they aren't convincing you then it's probably not worth the cost of changing system. In handling it's very different from my current camera but I doubt I'm going to be able to tell the difference when looking at the end result.

quadwing wrote in post #18588359 (external link)
One major concern of mine is the potential build quality of the A7III. Sony had to cut costs somewhere. My 5D4 is a tank. I could drop it and it would work perfectly (don't worry, I haven't). I've heard that some parts are made of plastic on the A7III, while this supposed isn't the case on the A7RIII. I'm okay with plastic as long as it can take a drop.

Plastic tends to take damage better than a lot of other materials and let's not forget, even though it's relatively cheap it's still an expensive camera so I wouldn't worry about the build quality of the body.




  
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Mar 25, 2018 19:10 |  #49

I'm in the same boat as you. I picked up a Metabones adapter and am still deciding between the two Sonys. AND I have a trip to Costa Rica a few days after the A7III release. I've been going through all the video reviews and comments since many in Europe have already received their A7III. Good luck!




  
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Mar 27, 2018 01:11 |  #50

If you are happy with the images, menu, ergonomics and lenses, then I don’t see much downside to switch. I tried to like A7rii and ended up hating it so much that couldn’t wait to go back to 5div. I looked at a7iii and I didn’t see much improvement in any of the above. Will wait for generation iv that is destined to obsolete all curent crop, will let others to beta test Sony products until it figures out its color science, robust touch video follow focus, much better menu system and fully articulating screen, they are still stuck with semi useless tilting variant. Sony is getting closer but I still consider all their current models as betas.




  
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Mar 27, 2018 08:32 |  #51

Does Sony still have lens issues? Unless you need 400mm f5.6, 200m f2 or the 500/600mm f4, what is missing? Oh T/S but you can use Canon versions on Sony. I don't like Sony ergonomics etc but calling A7RIII a beta is something. Dual Pixel on 5dmk4 maybe nicer (don't shoot video) but what else Canon has on Sony?


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Mar 27, 2018 08:52 |  #52

OOC Color Rendition


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Mar 27, 2018 08:57 |  #53

Artsf......

You’re hardcore :)

A7iii has apparently different colour science.

I’m seeking fun Times with the new sony
Bodies. They kinda put effort in a checklist of desired modern camera features.

At the moment Canon is still a primary system for me and I’d like to make the SONY more of my secondary for now. Fuji crop has been my small form factor fun camera.

Seems like a lot of Canon users are taking note of the newer A7 series.


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Mar 27, 2018 10:37 |  #54

Talley wrote in post #18594881 (external link)
OOC Color Rendition

People love Fuji colors. So here is straight, no pp, Fuji vs Sony. They look almost the same. I can throw in Canon also.

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Mar 27, 2018 10:42 |  #55

Sell me your 5DIV when you purchase the Sony. I am Canon for life!




  
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Mar 27, 2018 16:52 |  #56

bobbyz wrote in post #18594942 (external link)
People love Fuji colors. So here is straight, no pp, Fuji vs Sony. They look almost the same. I can throw in Canon also.

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I think it is normal for shooters of a given system to have a bias toward it. Blind tests often reveal otherwise. I shot Fuji for a while and one of the things that got me interested in the system was this near fanatical praise about the quality of Fuji JPEGs. In comparing to Canon or Nikon I didn't actually find them that great. You might be interested in this:

https://petapixel.com …and-best-straight-camera/ (external link)


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Mar 27, 2018 18:40 |  #57
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Talley wrote in post #18594881 (external link)
OOC Color Rendition

Internet over hype. There was a test on DPreview of images from Canon, Nikon and Sony...and guess what...majority liked the Sony images. It's amazing what a blind test which takes out the bias out of the equation can do.




  
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Mar 27, 2018 18:42 |  #58
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nqjudo wrote in post #18595200 (external link)
I think it is normal for shooters of a given system to have a bias toward it. Blind tests often reveal otherwise. I shot Fuji for a while and one of the things that got me interested in the system was this near fanatical praise about the quality of Fuji JPEGs. In comparing to Canon or Nikon I didn't actually find them that great. You might be interested in this:

https://petapixel.com …and-best-straight-camera/ (external link)

They aren't great...they are over saturated. I personally don't buy a $2,000 camera on it's jpeg results...I want the freedom to process the image the way I want rather than the way someone else dictates via jpeg.




  
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Mar 27, 2018 18:45 |  #59
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bobbyz wrote in post #18594942 (external link)
People love Fuji colors. So here is straight, no pp, Fuji vs Sony. They look almost the same. I can throw in Canon also.

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What does straight out of the camera even mean? There is processing going on, even on the raw files so SOOC is a pile of BS. Fuji just does more processing on it's raws that everyone else...nothing more here.




  
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Mar 27, 2018 19:00 |  #60

SOOC can be tweaked somewhat. There are settings that can be changed, like awb bias, and jpeg settings. The AWB bias can influence SOOC raw colors, as different WB values can wreak havoc on skin tones.

if you want the easiest way to PP sony files, do it the sony way by using Capture One for Sony. Capture One is the optimum raw editor for Sony, consider switching to it. Workflow is way different to lightroom, but get the hang of it, and it can be amazing. Blazing fast 100% previews, and I generally like the color controls on it better.


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