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Would you buy a 7D2 today?

 
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Apr 28, 2018 21:05 |  #1

Title says it all, almost.

I have had a 40D for 10 years or so and it's just about time to upgrade it ;)
Ideally I would wait for a 7D3 to be available but I am tempted to get a new camera for a nice trip I will soon have.

Would you buy the 7D2 now or is it a waste to buy such an old camera?


I would like to have:
- good low iso performance (especially since I am planning to buy either the sigma 100-400 or 150-600, both F6.3 or similar).
- hdr and/or higher dynamic range (my phone can take better landscapes than my camera, at times!)
- gps
- tilt screen would be nice but it is not a big deal
- weather sealing is nice but not a big deal

I do not care for:
- wireless
- video
- touch screen
- extreme fps (the 40D is sufficiently fast for me)

Any other camera you would consider instead of the 7D2?

I think I prefer the 7D2 on the 80D, but other than that I have been out of the camera loop for a while so I might be missing something.

Lenses I have:
Canon 100 2.8 macro (old one); canon 70-300is (old one); sigma 17-50 2.8; tokina 11-16 2.8


Thanks for your input.
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Apr 28, 2018 21:20 |  #2

I like mine, if I were in your situation I would look for a good used one, sell it when the mark III comes if the mark II is not meeting your expectations.
If I did not already have lots of Canon mount lenses, I would look at a Nikon D500.

Maybe look for a used or refurbished 6D if you are more interested in landscapes.




  
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Apr 28, 2018 21:28 |  #3

Depends a lot on your situation.

A few years ago I bought a 7D (ver 1) late in its cycle. I reasoned that if ver II came out, I would just buy the new model - and I did. Quite happy with the 7D and then the 7D2.

Things can change, and they depend on many things. A year ago I was hankering for the 7D Mark III. But if it came out now, I would not be so sure. The Mark II was heavy. If the III is heavier, I won't buy it. Weight has become more important for me. Might not be an issue at all for you, though.

For you, why not the 80D? It is cheaper and lighter. If you are reach-limited, it gives 10% more reach because of its greater pixel density. Either body will be a big advance over your 40D.


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Apr 28, 2018 21:37 |  #4

80d


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Apr 28, 2018 21:57 |  #5

Yep. After I figured mine out, I decided not to part with it until I absolutely have to. Solid camera for the price.




  
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Apr 28, 2018 22:06 |  #6

^^^^This!

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Apr 28, 2018 22:06 |  #7

Whatever you do look at refurbs. Don’t pay retail.

I liked my 7D2 but used my 6D about 75% of the time.


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Apr 29, 2018 01:52 |  #8

Without a second thought; but, as others mentioned, check for refurbished before outlaying full retail.

As mentioned by others, the 80D should also be considered as a solid upgrade from your 40D. There are some minor pluses/minuses between the two, but both will put you at/near the top of Canon's current crop body dSLR line.
(side by side spec list here: https://www.dpreview.c​om …dii&products=ca​non_eos80d (external link))


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Apr 29, 2018 05:12 |  #9

Just go out and get one and stop over thinking it.


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Apr 29, 2018 05:55 |  #10

LucaV wrote in post #18615577 (external link)
I would like to have:
- good low iso performance (especially since I am planning to buy either the sigma 100-400 or 150-600, both F6.3 or similar).
- hdr and/or higher dynamic range (my phone can take better landscapes than my camera, at times!)
- gps
- tilt screen would be nice but it is not a big deal
- weather sealing is nice but not a big deal

Any other camera you would consider instead of the 7D2?

I think I prefer the 7D2 on the 80D, but other than that I have been out of the camera loop for a while so I might be missing something..

Heya,

Any camera that is out in the past 4~5 years will have significant advancements over what you're used to. A 7D2 or 80D would be excellent.

The reason your phone deals with landscapes better is because it's doing HDR and merging. You can do better with the 40D, if you also did bracketed shots and merged. So don't let that be a factor.

The 80D/7D2 will have significantly better ISO performance, dynamic range, FPS, etc. They will be excellent for your needs.

I'd lean towards the 80D, refurb.

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Apr 29, 2018 11:10 |  #11

LucaV wrote in post #18615577 (external link)
Title says it all, almost.

I have had a 40D for 10 years or so and it's just about time to upgrade it ;)
Ideally I would wait for a 7D3 to be available but I am tempted to get a new camera for a nice trip I will soon have.

Would you buy the 7D2 now or is it a waste to buy such an old camera?

Speaking for myself, I actually did just buy a 7D2 only about three months ago. I found a virtually new one (119 clicks) with original box and everything on my local Craigslist for about half of what a new body lists for. It replaced a 70D because I go to a lot of airshows and I wanted the fastest AF system and all of its tracking modes.

I like the GPS although it's a bit finicky and uses a lot of battery. I miss the tilt screen a little because it made it easier to hold the camera up to shoot over people and fences.

As far as waiting for a 7D3, my guess is it will be at least late 2019 before it's announced. The 7D series appears to be on about a 5 year refresh cycle, and the 7D2 was released in late 2014. The 80D sounds like a great camera from all of the reports I read, but it's also getting a little long in the tooth for an XXD body (about 2-1/2 year refresh cycle), and no replacement has been announced.

At the end of the day, I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

Both are available on the used market at significant discounts. Check out the PON classifieds as well as your local Craigslist.

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Apr 29, 2018 11:26 |  #12

I'm still pleased with my 7D2.

As for the GPS, it does use a lot of battery, but I find that if I leave the camera by a window the day before I need it, and also let it get a lock before I start using it for the day, it works much better.




  
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Apr 29, 2018 11:47 |  #13

LucaV wrote in post #18615577 (external link)
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Would you buy the 7D2 now or is it a waste to buy such an old camera?

I would like to have:
- good low iso performance (especially since I am planning to buy either the sigma 100-400 or 150-600, both F6.3 or similar).
- hdr and/or higher dynamic range (my phone can take better landscapes than my camera, at times!)
- gps...
I do not care for:
- wireless
- video
- touch screen
- extreme fps (the 40D is sufficiently fast for me)

Any other camera you would consider instead of the 7D2?

I think I prefer the 7D2 on the 80D, but other than that I have been out of the camera loop for a while so I might be missing something.
...

Given your criteria, I would wait. Though the 7DII is an improvement over the 40D, it really does not address the two things you list, improved ISO and better DR. The ISO is better but not greatly so and the DR is almost the same. The 80D improves on both at lower ISO and I'm speculating that the 7DIII will take advantage of the better sensor in the 80D.


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Apr 29, 2018 11:49 |  #14

Absolutly NO !!!

I have a 1Dx2 and currently have the 5D3 as well

7D2 will be my last crop sensor

AF on 7D2 is crap compared to the 1Dx2. Greatly disappointed with its performance

The SonyA7iii is a better option with a sigma adapter to use your canon glass in my opinion

I think full frame with a TC is a far better option and I think your better off going for 150-600's because sensor performance and ISO performance will let you bump the ISO up enough to get shutter speeds and you will get better results. 7D2 tops out as a 4000 ISO camera in my opinion. I could put a 150-600 on the 5D4 and crank it to 8000 ISO and get better results for sports and wildlife needs.

I think TC's and cheaper reach far outweigh any advantages to the 1.6 crop sensor for sports and wildlife shooters and again you cant discount what the new Sony A7iii is going to allow you to do

Canon is not interested in the crop sensor. This is highly evident when they abandoned the 1.3 sensor for the 1D bodies.

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Apr 29, 2018 16:21 |  #15

Thanks a lot to all for the very insightful answers.

A few comments:

- used/refurbished are not that easy to find around here; you can get them from shops with guarantee and all but the savings are just not worth it.

- HDR: of course I could get it through post processing but I am past the time when I thought I would post process most of my pictures. I have hard disks full of triple exposures bracketing that I will never really look at :)
ISO is another matter. I don't like to go above 640 with the 40D; recent camera can do a bit better from what I read/see :)

- not really keen to invest in full frame or another brand because most of my glass would not work.
I do not shoot that much any more, so changing all the equipment does not make a lot of sense.

- I hinted at this before but if I were not going through a rather nice 3-weeks trip I would not buy a new camera. I waited 10 years to replace my 40d, I could wait one more and then jump on the 7D3 for another long time. But the trip is there...




  
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