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Apr 12, 2018 10:52 |  #1

OK so I am going on a cruise which will involve stops at three islands.

I DO NOT want to lug around my DSLR gear.

I am looking at buying either a high end P&S or maybe even a Mirrorless body with two lenses.

Image Quality is important, desire the best I can get from those gear constraints.

Obviously onboard ship a long zoom probably is not needed, however on shore it may be.

Went to a local camera dealer ( I refuse to buy online ) and they were pointing me to the Canon G5x and G7x because of the 1" sensor.

However their lenses had minimal zoom reach if any at all.

Hence the option of Mirrorless body.

Looking for suggestions here .......... budget is limited, but stretchable to a point. ( Looking at a $1,000 price point )

This gear will also be used after the vacation in various settings.

Looking for IDEAS and suggestions on what to " go with " and what to " avoid ".

FWIW - I am a big fan of Canon but definitely open to moving to another brand for this gear package.




  
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Apr 12, 2018 11:17 |  #2

For a P&S I would definitely recommend a 1" sensor camera over the smaller sensor cameras available.

Depending on how small/pocketable you want these links are a good place to start:
https://www.dpreview.c​om …husiast-long-zoom-cameras (external link)
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https://www.dpreview.c​om …de-best-cameras-under-500 (external link)

I've become a bit of a Sony guy, and been happy with the RX100 series, although they also have a limited zoom range. The RX10 series fixes the zoom range issue, but becomes a much larger package.
For travelling I've found that a pocketable camera is very nice, although if I know I'm going somewhere with good photography opportunities I'll also take a mirrorless and a couple lenses (I'm currently using the A6500).




  
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Apr 12, 2018 11:27 |  #3

I got on fabulously on a cruise with my EOS M5. Admittedly most of the time off ship I had my 15-85 on it but the 22mm pancake got a fair crack of the whip too

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Apr 12, 2018 12:33 |  #4

I picked up a canon Mirrorless for a recent trip south. Eos m10. I added a CPL as well. Was very happy with the pics.


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Apr 18, 2018 17:25 |  #5

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I am leaning to the M5 at this time but may pick it up with the 18-150 lens .... a little over the budget but hey budgets are designed to be broken.

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Apr 18, 2018 17:28 |  #6

Or possibly the newer M50 - smaller lens but does 4K video as well.

Knowing myself, I'll buy a long lens as well.

https://www.bestbuy.co​m …k/6204310.p?sku​Id=6204310 (external link)




  
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Apr 18, 2018 18:28 |  #7

That m5 is really nice. If I buy another Mirrorless I’d get one with a viewfinder I think. But I like the size of mine.


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Apr 19, 2018 05:55 |  #8

Jethr0 wrote in post #18609301 (external link)
That m5 is really nice. If I buy another Mirrorless I’d get one with a viewfinder I think. But I like the size of mine.

It looks at first glance as if the M50 is the M5 with a few updates .... biggest one being 4K Video.

$899 with the 15-45 IS STM lens ...... add $350 for a 55-200mm lens .... all in for $1249. <--- the cost of the M5 with the 18-150 lens

I have to look into the M50 a little more.




  
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Apr 19, 2018 05:59 |  #9

Found this M5 vs M50 comparison ....... M60 looks good.

https://mirrorlesscomp​arison.com/preview/can​on-eos-m5-vs-m50/ (external link)




  
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Apr 19, 2018 06:10 |  #10

yellowt2 wrote in post #18605351 (external link)
For a P&S I would definitely recommend a 1" sensor camera over the smaller sensor cameras available.

Depending on how small/pocketable you want these links are a good place to start:
https://www.dpreview.c​om …husiast-long-zoom-cameras (external link)
https://www.dpreview.c​om …etable-enthusiast-cameras (external link)
https://www.dpreview.c​om …de-best-cameras-under-500 (external link)

I've become a bit of a Sony guy, and been happy with the RX100 series, although they also have a limited zoom range. The RX10 series fixes the zoom range issue, but becomes a much larger package.
For travelling I've found that a pocketable camera is very nice, although if I know I'm going somewhere with good photography opportunities I'll also take a mirrorless and a couple lenses (I'm currently using the A6500).


I am curious about the meaning of ' 1" sensor ' ...... when it was recommended to go with a 1" sensor I was shown the Canon G7 and G5.

However the specs show them to have sensors measuring ..... 13.2 mm X 8 mm .... Are they saying ' 1" ' measured diagonally ?

Because 1" - 24.5mm

The Canon Mirrorless M5 and M50 feature APS-C sensors ..... 22.3 X 14.9mm ..... not a P&S camera ...... but price point is not all that far off.

G5X is about $700 ...... M50 is $899 ....... I am thinking the M50 may be my choice. That extra $200 gets one a lot.




  
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Apr 19, 2018 09:52 |  #11

BH has Sony A7 with kit lens (new) at the 1000$ mark. Free shipping. It works with Canon EF AF lenses and it works almost with any manual focus lens as long as adapter is available. It is full frame mirrorless camera. Best quality you could get in this price range.

Olympus has new for US e-pl 9 camera with kit lens under 600$. BH also has two lens kit OM-D10 MKII kit discounted to 778$. I have seen one locally on trail hike and owner likes it. It is small.

With my limited experience with Olympus MFT cameras one thing I learned is to switch to RAW. Once I did it, quality was very close if not on pair with my DSLR.


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Apr 19, 2018 12:10 |  #12

kf095 wrote in post #18609623 (external link)
BH has Sony A7 with kit lens (new) at the 1000$ mark. Free shipping. It works with Canon EF AF lenses and it works almost with any manual focus lens as long as adapter is available. It is full frame mirrorless camera. Best quality you could get in this price range.

Olympus has new for US e-pl 9 camera with kit lens under 600$. BH also has two lens kit OM-D10 MKII kit discounted to 778$. I have seen one locally on trail hike and owner likes it. It is small.

With my limited experience with Olympus MFT cameras one thing I learned is to switch to RAW. Once I did it, quality was very close if not on pair with my DSLR.

Looking into that I see Sony is now on the 3rd gen .... Sony A7 III.

I'll have to do a little research on the A7.

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Apr 20, 2018 09:31 |  #13

I always say keep it simple whatever you shoot with.
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Apr 20, 2018 14:34 |  #14

For your budget I’d say Fuji xt20 with 18-55 f2.8-4.0 stabilized lens. If you want an excellent cheap flash godox tt685f.

Iq is better than canon mirrorless/ even 8od, 4K, decent/good af, good high iso.

All depends on what you prefer.


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May 02, 2018 23:05 |  #15

AlanU wrote in post #18610404 (external link)
For your budget I’d say Fuji xt20 with 18-55 f2.8-4.0 stabilized lens. If you want an excellent cheap flash godox tt685f.

Iq is better than canon mirrorless/ even 8od, 4K, decent/good af, good high iso.

All depends on what you prefer.

I second this, Fuji probably has what you need in your budget and will be packing an APS-C sensor. The X-T20 is still available new from B&H and Adorama but it might be worth it to find a good used X-T1. Although the X-T1 gives up some MP and a touchscreen, it does come with a weather sealed body.

Regarding the Sony A7: you really have to try one before you buy. That camera is known for the weird placement of the shutter release, that's why I went with a used A7II instead.


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