Anto Modded wrote in post #18617955
i want to shoot wireless in woods, my aim is to put the flash above in a tree aimed down. i have a 800d and 80d and want to try avoid triggers etc.
Um... why do you want to avoid triggers?
Because attempting to do wireless flash with an optical system outside in brighter sunlight without may bounce surfaces can be problematic. The technology that's used is similar to a television remote control. And the near-infrared light that's used for communication can be overpowered by sunlight very easily.
Radio triggers tend to have much bigger range and much better reliability if you're shooting on location outside.
... would i be able to use Yongnuo YN-565EX II TTL Flash Speedlite to this. seems like a cheaper option as a i wouldnt be doing alot of this.
Well, any of the Yongnuo flashes that have "EX" in their names can be a "smart" optical slave to the pop-up flashes on your 800D/80D. But as I said, that system may not work great. And the YN-565EXII doesn't have a built-in radio slave.
... would like it to work automatically with out having to set the flash manually if possible.
Well, you can do TTL over the smart optical system, but how well it will work without adjustments is kind of like how well Av/Tv modes work at nailing exposure exactly: you may still have to dial in EC. With flash and TTL, you often have to dial in FEC.
i havent really any experience with flash so i hope my post makes sense. just with my 420exii canon and triggers i have to manually set the flash power so for the price of the yongnuo it my be a better option for me
Actually, most of us would say don't go with Yongnuo. Go with Godox. The Godox TT685C (US$110) can be a smart optical slave for Canon. But, like a YN-685 (which the TT685 is pretty similar to in price), it also has a built-in Godox X radio transceiver. You can remotely control it, both through TTL and M power ratios with a Godox X1T-C ($45) or XPro-C ($70) transmitter.
The reason this is better is that, unlike a YN-685, you can use it as an optical slave if you want to. And unlike the YN-565EX II, you don't have to add a radio trigger to its foot to use it over radio (with a YN-565EX II, you'd have to add a $35 YN-622C onto the foot (which brings its price up to that of a YN-685 or TT685), and get a YN-622-TX as your on-camera transmitter). And unlike either, you can use it in concert with the $65 manual-only Godox TT600, if you want. Yongnuo won't let you mix in a YN-560IV with a TT685 (or YN-565EX on a 622) without losing all TTL/HSS capability.
Additionally, the Godox system will let you add bigger lights, if you feel you need them (Yongnuo pretty much makes mostly speedlight strobes), and you can use the lights cross-brand, so if you add or switch to mirrorless, or need to share your lights with another shooter who doesn't use Canon, you can still use the same flashes, you just need a transmitter that matches the other camera system.