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May 01, 2018 00:08 |  #16

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Hey fordmondeo: I test drove the 85 1.4 and loved it, but the price is a little high now. Someone turned me on to the 100 2.8 and I am looking at that one even though I have the 135 f2. The used 85 1.2 II are a little cheaper than the 1.4, so is there that big of a difference in your opinion and experience between the 2? I know the DOF is razor thin on the 1.2, and we have all heard horror stories of getting the thing to focus, and if the subject moved when you took the shot it was not sharp.

My 135 f2, to my eye, produces a more pleasing background blur than the 85 1.4.
The 85 1.2 mk2 also adds a little more drama to shots but is tricky to focus in a repeatable manner on anything but static subjects.

What the 135 and 851.2 both lack is, weather sealing and image stabilization and, as I use my stuff outside and hand held, the 85 1.4 makes perfect sense.
I cannot imagine any outdoor situation where a 50mm would be better than an 85mm stabilized optic.


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May 01, 2018 16:42 as a reply to  @ fordmondeo's post |  #17

I think that is fair comment.

I am totally 'sold' on the 85mm F/1.2 but not for every purpose, just for the few things at which it totally excels. It still has a unique quality ... nothing beats it in its own 'zone'.

But the 85mm F/1.4 is far more versatile.


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May 02, 2018 01:54 |  #18

where is the Canon 50mm f/1,4L IS USM?  :p


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May 02, 2018 03:17 |  #19

Ah-keong wrote in post #18617896 (external link)
where is the Canon 50mm f/1,4L IS USM?  :p

Imminent I'm sure.


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May 02, 2018 10:48 |  #20

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Hate to burst your bubble but it is a function of the lens design.
Unless it has fundamentally changed since first launch, all canon 50mm 1.2 lenses will display RSA.

No bubble to burst. Like most zealots you regurgitate the same mantra in the hope that we will all take your word as gospel. Feel free to provide as long, detailed and technical (with diagrams) explanation of this inherent design fault as you like. I'll just ignore it and keep taking nice pictures.




  
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May 03, 2018 00:01 |  #21

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No bubble to burst. Like most zealots you regurgitate the same mantra in the hope that we will all take your word as gospel. Feel free to provide as long, detailed and technical (with diagrams) explanation of this inherent design fault as you like. I'll just ignore it and keep taking nice pictures.

As requested, right under your nose.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1449056

No need to thank me!


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May 03, 2018 02:02 |  #22

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As requested, right under your nose.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1449056

No need to thank me!

...and as previously stated, ill studiously ignore it and just take some pics 8-)




  
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May 04, 2018 14:14 |  #23

I want to second that focus shift is indeed not a fault, actually at some point even Canon said it's not a fault, it's a feature. It's a consequence of a fully spherical design (aka classic design).
It only happens at close distance, never at infinity.
I have the Zeiss Planar 50 f/1.4 T* which has focus shift as well. One really need to spend a lot of time with the lens to master manual focus.
The Canon 50 f/1.4 has an aspherical element that corrects the focus shift, but loses other qualities.


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May 04, 2018 16:31 |  #24

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Is it worth it?

I've read in a couple corners of the internet that no one can use it above 1.8-2.0 aperture, because it's so hard to get in focus.


Phew, glad I didn't know that before I took this photo at f2.5 last week. ;-)a

Very low level natural light, just seconds before sunset.


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May 04, 2018 16:41 |  #25

fordmondeo wrote in post #18618566 (external link)
As requested, right under your nose.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1449056

No need to thank me!

If you read my thread, you will note that I'm concluding that the focus shift is so small that it never makes the off point batteries sharper than the target. Same as I was stating in this thread, the shift is pretty much a non-issue. Seriously, study the batteries I shot.

What are you going to do....buy a 50/1.4 that routinely misses focus by a few inches in order to avoid this 3mm shift?


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May 04, 2018 17:19 |  #26

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Phew, glad I didn't know that before I took this photo at f2.5 last week. ;-)a

Very low level natural light, just seconds before sunset.

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OK, maybe I miscommunicated, by "above" I meant 1.4-2.0.




  
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May 04, 2018 17:28 as a reply to  @ jhaywald's post |  #27

I'd suggest you go and read the thread I started that was helpfully linked into this thread. The idea that the focus shift makes the 50L 'un-usable' is pure hyperbole.


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May 04, 2018 18:04 as a reply to  @ JeffreyG's post |  #28

I didnt mean to create an argument guys, from what I've gathered and settled on until I get my hands on a 50L is that pre-2009 it was an issue....luckily for me I have found someone selling one they purchased in November (with a receipt, box, hood, filter, and 128Gb CF) for an excellent price. I will let everyone know what I experience with the lens.




  
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May 05, 2018 01:06 |  #29

You certainly haven't created an argument, it's been there for years. I'm glad you've made your decision and hope you enjoy your new lens. Ignore the technical discussions and just go take some pictures, then post em up for us to see 8-)




  
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May 05, 2018 17:02 |  #30

JeffreyG wrote in post #18619572 (external link)
What are you going to do....buy a 50/1.4 that routinely misses focus by a few inches in order to avoid this 3mm shift?

My 50/1.4 routinely focuses perfectly accurately and very quickly (with no MFA required).

I'd still love to have a 50L F/1.2.


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