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May 10, 2018 08:00 |  #7171

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18622989 (external link)
What you're describing with Fuji files is specific to Adobe products, this issue doesn't exist in Capture One and several other programs.

Does Capture one have a demo to test?

Workflow wise I know lightroom extremely well.

I installed a 1TB Samsung SSD and even LR 6 has improved in speed now that I have the raw files on the same drive as my OS system.

So all of the painterly photos are Adobe users?

Can you test by taking a photo on a bright sunny day shooting at f/8 to f/11. Uplift the shadows with Capture one. If you do not get the film like cartoon/painterly look I will believe that it is an Adobe issue. My guess is Capture one will do the exact same thing.

Reason I say that is because even in RAW files you can already see this smudged detail look even at f/8 and smaller on trees/shrubs etc...... This is a character I do not complain about.

Sony on the other hand has extremely detailed leaves at f/8 and smaller aperture.


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May 10, 2018 08:09 |  #7172

Doesn't matter camera brand to me. All just tools. I like Fuji because it was smaller and lighter than when I had my Canon 5D mk II and lenses.

I've seen people with full frame and medium format take lousy photos, and then have seen people with iPhones and Canon Rebel "starter" cameras take amazing photos.

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May 10, 2018 09:47 |  #7173

AlanU wrote in post #18623084 (external link)
Does Capture one have a demo to test?

Workflow wise I know lightroom extremely well.

I installed a 1TB Samsung SSD and even LR 6 has improved in speed now that I have the raw files on the same drive as my OS system.

So all of the painterly photos are Adobe users?

Can you test by taking a photo on a bright sunny day shooting at f/8 to f/11. Uplift the shadows with Capture one. If you do not get the film like cartoon/painterly look I will believe that it is an Adobe issue. My guess is Capture one will do the exact same thing.

Reason I say that is because even in RAW files you can already see this smudged detail look even at f/8 and smaller on trees/shrubs etc...... This is a character I do not complain about.

Sony on the other hand has extremely detailed leaves at f/8 and smaller aperture.

I'm not sure how it is that you're aware of this potential issue yet aren't aware that it comes directly from RAW conversion. Of course you're seeing it "even in the RAW files", you only see it with RAW files...


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May 10, 2018 09:52 |  #7174

AlanU wrote in post #18623084 (external link)
Does Capture one have a demo to test?

Yes, they do. Capture One is the best RAW editor for Fuji RAF files IMO.

However, I find that Lightroom CC Classic runs much faster than Capture one during the editing process. Capture One's layer brushes are insanely laggy, which makes being precise very difficult, and yes, I have a very powerful PC running it.




  
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May 10, 2018 11:14 |  #7175

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Yes, they do. Capture One is the best RAW editor for Fuji RAF files IMO.

However, I find that Lightroom CC Classic runs much faster than Capture one during the editing process. Capture One's layer brushes are insanely laggy, which makes being precise very difficult, and yes, I have a very powerful PC running it.

There's something wrong then, LR was considerably slower on both of my systems, one being an entry level surface Pro 4. In fact, Capture One is far faster for everything except exporting on my Surface Pro.

What are your system specs and Capture One preferences/settings?


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May 10, 2018 21:24 |  #7176

Rokinon 21mm F1.4

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May 10, 2018 22:49 |  #7177

Ive been way to lazy since getting back from Zion. I haven't even transferred my photos from the Hard drive to my computer yet/Lightroom yet. So little motivation right now!

Just decided to grab a couple photos from the HD (WD Wireless passport pro) and edit them on the iPad with LR Mobile and Photoshop fix (thats how I edited a couple while on my trip too). I thought having the edited files in adobe cloud would be great once I got home too. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong but to get them into LR Classic CC I have to upload them to the cloud, open LR CC, Move them from LR CC to a folder, then import them from that folder to LR Classic.....There has got to be an easier way!

Any ways, The Narrows! (BAD shot but I like this part of the narrows. Wish I would have taken my tripod into the Narrows with me)


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May 11, 2018 00:19 |  #7178

From couple of hrs ago. Should have lowered ambient by using HSS but this was in a class setting and I wanted students to have more time.

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May 11, 2018 00:27 |  #7179

gremlin75 wrote in post #18623593 (external link)
Ive been way to lazy since getting back from Zion. I haven't even transferred my photos from the Hard drive to my computer yet/Lightroom yet. So little motivation right now!


I don't typically photograph landscapes--mostly people. But I've been playing with some PS methods which would work best on landscape images.

So, if you would like me to take a crack at an image or two, send me the RAW file and I'll put it through its paces...


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May 11, 2018 01:09 |  #7180

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I don't typically photograph landscapes--mostly people. But I've been playing with some PS methods which would work best on landscape images.

So, if you would like me to take a crack at an image or two, send me the RAW file and I'll put it through its paces...

I appreciate it but I do like processing my photos. Just dealing with crap out side of my control right now, so it's left me with little motivation to do much of anything let alone edit. I know once I get everything imported and culled I'll be excited to started editing (its actually been kind of fun firing out a "mobile" editing work flow with the iPad. Still have a lot of kinks to work out though)........but for now the files just set on their SD cards and the hard drive. Hell at this point I'm just happy I found a decent backup process without a computer. That will be a life saver on my month long Nation Park trip in July!




  
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May 11, 2018 13:21 |  #7181

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18623184 (external link)
There's something wrong then, LR was considerably slower on both of my systems, one being an entry level surface Pro 4. In fact, Capture One is far faster for everything except exporting on my Surface Pro.

What are your system specs and Capture One preferences/settings?

When did you try this? Lightroom was slow but updates have improved the speed a lot.




  
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May 11, 2018 13:23 |  #7182

AlanU wrote in post #18623084 (external link)
Does Capture one have a demo to test?

Workflow wise I know lightroom extremely well.

I installed a 1TB Samsung SSD and even LR 6 has improved in speed now that I have the raw files on the same drive as my OS system.

So all of the painterly photos are Adobe users?

Can you test by taking a photo on a bright sunny day shooting at f/8 to f/11. Uplift the shadows with Capture one. If you do not get the film like cartoon/painterly look I will believe that it is an Adobe issue. My guess is Capture one will do the exact same thing.

Reason I say that is because even in RAW files you can already see this smudged detail look even at f/8 and smaller on trees/shrubs etc...... This is a character I do not complain about.

Sony on the other hand has extremely detailed leaves at f/8 and smaller aperture.

I prefer X-Transformer by Iridient if I want to use a different RAW converter. This also has the added bonus of working within Lightroom.




  
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May 11, 2018 13:29 |  #7183

So, after using my Fuji kit last week at Disney. XT1, 18-55, 35f2, 55-200. I will say I did not miss my canon at all. I could carry my whole kit that weighed in about as much as my 70-200 2.8. I didnt have to leave anything behind. There wasnt any images I missed thinking I could have captured them with the Canon. Actually I think it was the opposite. I was able to capture more than I could with the canon because of the better ISO and better shadow highlight recovery.
The DR is so much improved. I was able to recover highlights and shadows I know my 7DII never would have been able to and keep the colors properly. Also the High ISO 5000-6400 was a big improvement. Finer grain, more detail and much better color than the 7DII. I honestly dont even reach for my Canon kit anymore. I will be upgrading to the XT2 before we go back in September.

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May 11, 2018 15:23 |  #7184

jj_glos wrote in post #18623939 (external link)
When did you try this? Lightroom was slow but updates have improved the speed a lot.

A few months ago, but I still maintain what I said. The poster described Capture One as "insanely laggy", I wouldn't say that about any process in Capture One on either of my computers.


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May 11, 2018 15:24 |  #7185

jj_glos wrote in post #18623939 (external link)
When did you try this? Lightroom was slow but updates have improved the speed a lot.

Lightroom is still slow and a resource hog (yes I'm on the latest version), C1 is very lean in comparison and resolves those X-Trans files really nice. X-Transformer made the files sizes far to large when transcoding them to DNG, detail is nice though.


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