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May 08, 2018 07:30 |  #1

Ive been keeping an eye on the new smart adapter that Fringer have brought out for Canon EF lens to Fuji X Bodies and was wondering if anyone has been delivered one yet from prerelease sales and got to test their lens out on a Fuji Body?.

For those that dont know the smart adapter is here https://www.fringerada​pter.com/#for-x-mount (external link)

Ive especially been interested in it for my Xt-20. I want to put my EF100-400 IS MKII on the Xt-20 because now Im using my ef400 f2.8 MK2 with 1.4extender almost fulltime on my 5dsr and my 100-400 is sitting idle. Ive got no other body to currently use it on except for my aging 5dMk2 and whilst it is ok on that it would be even better on the Xt-20 given its got a great aps-c xtrans sensor which will give me an effective range of 640mm which will really be a bonus for bird photography!.

Over the last few months Ive been watching the progression of the testing of Fringer smart af adapter via Youtube videos and it looks like its going from strength to strength with each firmware update with even Fuji themselves recently asking Fringer for some units to use in an up and coming promo. This is all great however so far there are very little user reviews apart from this one recent review thats just come on youtube https://www.youtube.co​m …ontinue=206&v=a​qaPdrqGf8I (external link) so Im looking for other feedback in addition to this review if they are available . That is feedback on how fast and on target the adaptor AF function is and what sort of lens and fuji body it is being used on.

Ive also seen that there is a steelring and Kipon smart adaptor planned for the Fuji Xi series bodies with interchangeable lens so if anyone has got one of those instead of a Fringer I would certainly be interested in hearing about it

BTW It certainly makes sense in my mind that this smart adaptor will continue to be developed for future Fuji bodies and Canon Lens especially given the success Sony has had with the development of smart adaptors for Canon Lens with their newer mirrorless bodies like the A9 A7RII etc. etc.

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May 09, 2018 21:45 |  #2

Received mine last week. Using the adapter on a Fuji Xt2, Canon EF400mm F5.6 and EF 85mm F1.8. I been using on sunny days, static subjects, birds in my backyard and find the focusing speed is almost equal to these Canon lenses and Canon 7D2, 1D mark IV. The 400, a few times, lost focus completely and will not refocus. Turn off/on the camera, and it focused on the subject. Have not had a chance to try for BIF. I've also used it on the 85 and so far so good but I only used it a few times.


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May 11, 2018 07:00 |  #3

SevenD2 wrote in post #18622934 (external link)
Received mine last week. Using the adapter on a Fuji Xt2, Canon EF400mm F5.6 and EF 85mm F1.8. I been using on sunny days, static subjects, birds in my backyard and find the focusing speed is almost equal to these Canon lenses and Canon 7D2, 1D mark IV. The 400, a few times, lost focus completely and will not refocus. Turn off/on the camera, and it focused on the subject. Have not had a chance to try for BIF. I've also used it on the 85 and so far so good but I only used it a few times.
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Thanks for the feedback....I wonder if the 100-400 will be the same as your 400mm?...I see Fringer are now including both the 400mm and 100-400 in tested /optimised lens on their website. Im assuming you have the latest firmware that that covers the 400mm f5.6?....Regardless going by your experience to date its worth a shot getting this adapter I think especially as I really only shoot in daylight and very rarely in lower light than heavy overcast . As well as this the Fringer seems to have very strong firmware development support so I figure things are only going to get better as time goes on as more lens are added to the their growing list of optimised lens.

Regrettably Ive missed the window s they are sold out again however I sent off an email to Fringer and he says to check the site next week .

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May 11, 2018 17:50 as a reply to  @ clipper_from_oz's post |  #4

Cannot comment on the 100 - 400. I have not checked the firmware, I am guessing it will the latest to date as I just received it last week. At times, it hunts when the background is busy when in Continuous mode and Zone AF, I just switch to Single point.
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May 12, 2018 06:16 |  #5

SevenD2 wrote in post #18624106 (external link)
Cannot comment on the 100 - 400. I have not checked the firmware, I am guessing it will the latest to date as I just received it last week. At times, it hunts when the background is busy when in Continuous mode and Zone AF, I just switch to Single point.
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Thanks

Also whats single point like when compared to AI Servo( Cont)?...Faster and more consistant or similar ?

BTW Im in single point AF mode 90% of the time anyway so was always more worried about that over AI servo. And when Im in ai servo its Birds in flight which dont normally get busy as its mainly all sky so the hunting your seeing may not be an issue in this situation ....


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May 12, 2018 10:45 |  #6

It toggles with no lag in Continuous High, Low and Single.




  
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May 23, 2018 23:30 |  #7

Ive now ordered one so hopefully I can do a review of it shortly.


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May 28, 2018 09:47 |  #8

I got the Fringer today and as it was getting dark towards early evening I really only could test indoors with medium -low ambient quickly dropping to poor low light and whilst the fringer wasnt too bad with the medium to low light it was pretty much hunting in low. But thats ok for me as I dont shoot indoors and dont shoot much past late afternoon. Even in the medium to low light before dusk really set in it was pretty good, that is AF Centre point fast and sharp so Im sure outdoors during the day will be as good if not better .

Here are 2 shots taken at 278 mm and 400mm with all being sharp straight out of camera although I did apply very minor sharpening to both on export from Lightroom. And shots were taken at278mm 1/60 th second and 400mm at 1/125th sec respectively so IS is working well also. Although light was so low I had to use 1so 5000 but the Xtrans sensor didnt do too bad a job even at a 60% crop which at iso5000 on my 5dsr would have been way more noticeable.

Im thinking also this lens camera adapter combo is going to be great especially for what I want it for ( wildlife and birds in flight) And with the cropped sensor I will be getting around 640mm at f5.6. Only issue I can see with this combo will most likely be the reduced tracking performance vs my Canon 5dsr but Im sure I can work around that .

All in all I think for $295USD this is an absolute bargain especially when taking into consideration Ive just saved myself $1800 by not having to buy a Fujinon 100-400 by being able to use my Canon ef100-400mm LMk2 IS which is one of Canons best zoom telephoto lens for image IQ . I will be trying my other my EF lens out with the smart adapter over next few days especially in respect to AF and IS and will update this with some real world outdoor results when completed

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May 28, 2018 18:35 as a reply to  @ clipper_from_oz's post |  #9

It's been working fine for me so far. I have not been able to try for BIF. This sparrow is about 40' away, heavily cropped.

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May 28, 2018 18:56 |  #10

SevenD2 wrote in post #18634683 (external link)
It's been working fine for me so far. I have not been able to try for BIF. This sparrow is about 40' away, heavily cropped.

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Hmm. Your using that with the 400mm f5.6? I think I'm gonna want that Fringer.


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May 28, 2018 21:13 as a reply to  @ ETS's post |  #11

Yes. It's on the Exif file.




  
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May 29, 2018 02:10 |  #12

Some more test shots in better light.

1st 2 are at 100mm .1st image full shot 2nd image is a 100%. crop. These images only have default sharpening and had default NR in Lightoom so Noise is evident in images especially 100% crops . I Didnt want to apply any additional NR in order to preserve OOC Sharpening for comparison purposes. I would normally reduce the NR by a significant amount if enlarging to a size like a 100% crop

Regarding performance . In single shot centre focus AF was fast and only missed a couple of AF in the many test shots I took. In continuous af it was good also but in low light struggles still. . In good light I would rate it 95% of what I could get with most of my fujinon lens although my 60mm would be worse than my Canon tests as its terrible in most situations.

On fast frame shooting CL setting I think it needs to be reoptimised because when 4-5 frames per sec were taken the first 4 of the set were fine with always the final frame soft and slightly off. This Im sure is a software issue and shouldnt be hard to fix in a firmware update

On CH at 14 frames per second? it performed perfectly with first through to last frame of the set being in focus. I will use this setting when needing fast FPS.

All in all confirms to me this adapter is a bargain for someone that wants to use all their Canon glass that they have acumulated over the years especially one of Canons best zooms like the EF100-400isMk2 is.


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May 29, 2018 02:30 |  #13

These images at 400mm .This will be apprx 670mm F5.6 as this is a cropped sensor

image one 400mm Default sharpening etc

image 2 100% crop. Default sharpening etc

BTW......Best way to get a feel how good this lens and body combo is is to look at the 100mm full shot of the 40kph signpost and then compare that with the 400mm cropped 40kph image. This is probably the sharpest I have ever seen this lens operate at 400mm . It certainly seems sharper than my 5dsr and thats saying a lot because I thought the 400 end was sharp on that but it seems the Fuji xt-20 can take it up a notch in that respect..


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May 31, 2018 11:34 |  #14

Excellent thread. Helps me make up my mind about getting an adapter for my XT2. Thanks.




  
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May 31, 2018 12:18 |  #15

another test shot from today


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