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Jun 01, 2018 06:01 |  #16

GESWhoPhoto wrote in post #18635690 (external link)
I was recently contracted to shoot my first wedding this coming December, and I know lighting group shots and receptions can be tricky for total noobs. As I am about to expand my lighting kit significantly, I had one main question:

If you had to rebuild your light kit from scratch for event/wedding and group portraiture work, what would you buy? The GODOX system to start off with?

To answer the final question first, I would build on the Elinchrom Ranger if I were going from the ground up. Having 1000+ WS is in the sweet spot for competing with the sun when you need it, is plenty of power for large modifiers and spreading light over a very large group or at a distance, works well for high-speed sports, does well in inclement weather and, if you have an excess of power, the light is instantly ready for the next shot.

Does everyone need this? Absolutely not. Can you do great work with Godox? Absolutely. I own both and you can't tell from the photos which I (used unless there is something extreme which reveals a lot of power was needed, anyway).

As for the question which is raised by your post but isn't asked...I suggest you think carefully about taking on a wedding without the experience.

Weddings are a serious challenge and require a broad range of skills. And you need to have those skills down so you can execute quickly and correctly. You can't hold up the wedding reception because you are fiddling with lights. You need to be able to produce images in the conditions you are given (church interior, reception, etc). There are images you will be expected to nail (first dance, cake, toast, first kiss, etc, etc). And there are the complex social situations you will need to float through smoothly while creating images.

At the very least, I suggest you get a second shooter with experience who can work it with you to reduce the chance of disappointment.

I strongly suggest having a contract and having appropriate insurance which covers wedding photography.

In general, I encourage photographers to just get out there and do it. Weddings would be a notable exception.

You don't get a "do over" with a wedding. The wedding day is about the bride and groom and their celebration, not about the photographer.


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Jun 01, 2018 07:45 as a reply to  @ F2Bthere's post |  #17

Thank you very much for the lighting tips!

I 100% agree on the wedding photography philosophy. I was very hesitant to accept any kind of wedding work; I've turned down 2-3 clients in my short time doing this professionally, because I didn't feel I was at the level to do a wedding at those points in time. But, I've been somewhat thrown to the fire; shooting concert situations with very little usable light, having a fiance that likes to model her cosplay outfits at Disney mid-day, and I've been covering intimate events like baby showers, bridal showers, baptisms, etc., left and right over the past few months.

So, when a friend approached me, telling me he can't find a wedding photographer around us that they can afford, and asked what I would charge, I was finally at the point where I was like "Look, I can sit here and tell myself I'm not ready my whole life, or I can man up, learn what I need to learn between now and December, and give it my absolute best shot (no pun intended)." And trust me, I plan on learning the new lighting equipment inside and out before then!

I was considering starting with 3-4 Godox TT685s for this first affair, and building up that gear to include more powerful strobes as time goes on. Any thoughts on that in particular?


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Jun 01, 2018 09:36 as a reply to  @ GESWhoPhoto's post |  #18

"Look, I can sit here and tell myself I'm not ready my whole life, or I can man up, learn what I need to learn between now and December, and give it my absolute best shot (no pun intended)."

The challenge with self-education is that we often don't know what we don't know ;). A formal photographic education is one way to prepare, but not before December.

Assisting a wedding photographer is the wisest road to prepare. Being at weddings in a photographic role with a more experienced person who knows the ropes and will make sure what needs to happen happens. In the process, you can observe and/or be told the details of what needs to be done.

In any case, experienced and skilled wedding photographers frequently have an assistant or second shooter. If you select the right person, you can also learn from them and you will have significantly better chance of getting critical shots.


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Jun 01, 2018 10:00 as a reply to  @ F2Bthere's post |  #19

Man, I'd love to second-shoot between now and then. Maybe I should reach out to some local wedding photogs to try and set something up.

Other than that, the approach is to watch every single possible YouTube video for wedding photography between now and then and compile it all together in my brain. Haha! That, and of course, practice a crap-ton with whatever lighting system I end up going with.


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Jun 07, 2018 06:48 as a reply to  @ post 18636635 |  #20

the AD200 are the most power in the smallest package, but the 860II are fast, solid, and light... so some sort of combo of the two would be it. All depends on your style.
I got mine at Adorama so if I had any problems I had someone to talk to/switch out, but so far they have been really solid, and kept going despite a few drops and bumps.


Godox/Flashpoint r2 system, plus some canon stuff.

  
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