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Jun 02, 2018 09:28 |  #61

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As a base amateur and due to retire in next few years am looking to reduce costs so can't really justify it. Am still interested in having th M50 though, for the articlating screen, but it is probably not a good enough reason to spend money


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Jun 03, 2018 09:54 as a reply to  @ post 18637641 |  #62

Cheers mate. So would you have the 200 or 150mm and do you think the other lenses are overkill? I just want the M lenses. Not the adapter.




  
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Jun 03, 2018 11:29 |  #63

Ive just got the 18-150 for my M50. Although most of the time i will use my EF-S 18-135 USM Nano i like the idea of a small all M traveling set up.
The 18-150 fits the bill perfectly. I really love how small and light it is. It’s nice not standing out with bigger heavy gear and much nicer to transport around on a day out walking about.

IQ is ok. Nothing spectacular compared to my other lenses (not even the 11-22), especially at the long end, and being STM it’s slower to AF than my 18-135, but IQ is definitely usable and i have no real issues with it if i take in to account how convenient it is. At the long end its a bit soft, but looks fine unless i crop in too much. It reminds me of how my old 70-300 used to look over 220mm, and a bit liek the 50mm f/1.4 wide open. A bit dreamy but cleans up well.
F/6.3 kicks in at around 60mm, but in good light that’s a not a big deal for me, taking in to acoount its just really for holidays in hot places, and having a more or less constant F stop (all bet it a slow one) helps keep things a bit more predictable when zooming in and out.

Ill use it only when i really have to, but i wont hesitate to pack just this lens when i go on holiday to a sunny place.

I know this lens gets a bad rap, and i don’t disagree with that to an extent, but its still a lens that takes good photos and offers a lovely range for something so small.


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Jun 04, 2018 02:41 as a reply to  @ dave_bass5's post |  #64

Thanks mate. I think I will get it. As you have said the M series is great for travel and that's exactly why I want them. I travel a lot, so they are the best option for me. What do you think of the other lenses I have select or would you not get any of them? I will go with the 18-150mm too.




  
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Jun 04, 2018 14:59 as a reply to  @ WA Tiger's post |  #65

I think as long as you aren’t expecting top notch IQ you will find the 18-150 a really fun lens to use. I’m still amazed at how compact it is, even extended.

My own M only travel line up is the 18-150, the 11-22 (which is sharper) and i expect ill get the 22 f/2 for low light. I had the 22 f/2 years ago when it first came out, but that was on the original M and although IQ was good its wasnt a great experience as far as the camera went.
AF can be quite slow on these STM lenses, but they are accurate.

I dont use the 11-22 much, just like i dont use my 16-35 f/4 on my 5D4, or used my 10-18 much on my old 80D, but its a handy lens to have and great for indoor shooting in tight spaces.


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Jun 04, 2018 15:46 |  #66

dave_bass5 wrote in post #18639132 (external link)
I think as long as you aren’t expecting top notch IQ you will find the 18-150 a really fun lens to use. I’m still amazed at how compact it is, even extended.

My own M only travel line up is the 18-150, the 11-22 (which is sharper) and i expect ill get the 22 f/2 for low light. I had the 22 f/2 years ago when it first came out, but that was on the original M and although IQ was good its wasnt a great experience as far as the camera went.
AF can be quite slow on these STM lenses, but they are accurate.

I dont use the 11-22 much, just like i dont use my 16-35 f/4 on my 5D4, or used my 10-18 much on my old 80D, but its a handy lens to have and great for indoor shooting in tight spaces.

I wonder if your AF experience with 22mm has more to do with older M body. To me, 22mm focuses very fast on M50, I don’t notice any difference between it and 11-22mm for still and video. I personally prefer STM lenses because they focus very smoothly in video. To achieve the same effect with USM lenses on 5div, I have to select slow focus option which doesn’t work with tracking/face detect.




  
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Jun 05, 2018 05:31 as a reply to  @ dave_bass5's post |  #67

Thanks again mate, looking forward to the purchase.




  
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Jun 05, 2018 09:59 |  #68

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I wonder if your AF experience with 22mm has more to do with older M body. To me, 22mm focuses very fast on M50, I don’t notice any difference between it and 11-22mm for still and video. I personally prefer STM lenses because they focus very smoothly in video. To achieve the same effect with USM lenses on 5div, I have to select slow focus option which doesn’t work with tracking/face detect.

Well my experience was only on the M so you do have a point, but i find all my STM lenses are slower on either my 5D4 or old 80D. If its the same speed as the 11-22 then ii will notice it. I guess as its a very small prime the lenses dont need to move too much. Having used my 50mm stm, 24stm and 40mm stm on my M50 all feel sluggish compared to my 18-135 Nano and 10-18 USM (not to mention my L lenses). Not unusable, but just noticeable to me and ill need to get used to this.

Ive ordered one anyway and even if it is slower than i would like its going to be a nice lens to have, at least until the possible 35mm M comes along. I dont really do video much, but i have a feeling i will with the M50 as its a bit more immediate compared to my 5D4 if that makes sense.
I do like how the M50 will slow even my USM lenses down for AF in Movie mode. Thats a cool feature as it lacks the speed control.

Oh, and its now been a month since i last used my 5D4 :-)


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Jun 05, 2018 10:48 |  #69

dave_bass5 wrote in post #18639592 (external link)
Well my experience was only on the M so you do have a point, but i find all my STM lenses are slower on either my 5D4 or old 80D. If its the same speed as the 11-22 then ii will notice it. I guess as its a very small prime the lenses dont need to move too much. Having used my 50mm stm, 24stm and 40mm stm on my M50 all feel sluggish compared to my 18-135 Nano and 10-18 USM (not to mention my L lenses). Not unusable, but just noticeable to me and ill need to get used to this.

Ive ordered one anyway and even if it is slower than i would like its going to be a nice lens to have, at least until the possible 35mm M comes along. I dont really do video much, but i have a feeling i will with the M50 as its a bit more immediate compared to my 5D4 if that makes sense.
I do like how the M50 will slow even my USM lenses down for AF in Movie mode. Thats a cool feature as it lacks the speed control.

Oh, and its now been a month since i last used my 5D4 :-)

I use 50STM on M50 and it is much slower than 22mm. It’s probably one of the slowest lenses in EF lineup. I am back to using 5div mostly and M50 is more of a backup. The IQ and overall depth of the images with 5div+35IS is just that much nicer plus stabilized 4k video, makes you wanna use it for the results despite the bulk. But M50+22 is certainly sufficient and more practical for many casual scenarios and it is also a perfect UWA setup with 11-22mm, no need to get 16-35IS for 5div and change lenses. My travel setup is M50+11-22 and 5div+24-70IS (dayime) and 35IS night.




  
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Jun 07, 2018 06:44 as a reply to  @ artsf's post |  #70

Yes, the 50mm does seem very sluggish compared to my other STM lenses, but IQ is the best ive had from a 50mm lens so far.
I expect ill go back to using the 5D4 more soon, but im enjoying using the M50 too much at the moment.

I don't do a lot of video, but i do like the fact that you can use the EVF when using movie mode, one thing i feel the M50 has over the OVF cameras. in fact this has prompted me ot shoot more video with the M50 than i ever did with my DSLR's combined.


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Jun 08, 2018 01:58 |  #71

I switched from a T3i to mirrorless (Panasonic GH4) in 2014 because I wanted good quality and affordable 4K video. The GH4 filled the bill, but I deeply missed Canon color and was delighted when the M50 was announced. I've been very happy with it and rarely use the GH4 anymore. The crop factor in the M50's 4K video has been only a slight inconvenience so far. I turn off digital image stabilization and shoot on a tripod to gain maximum detail and eliminate rolling shudder.




  
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Jun 17, 2018 15:40 |  #72

Wondering what on-camera microphone M50 folks are using to achieve good audio quality with while shooting 1080 or 4K video? I am looking for one that can pick up the sounds of nature; i.e. has low background "hiss" noise. Thanks.




  
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Jun 17, 2018 16:50 |  #73

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Couldn't you just use Adobe DNG converter then use LR 6? I did that when LR didn't support my 6DII at release.

I had not thought about this option until it was mentioned in this thread. I downloaded the app, and it does work pretty well for getting the CR3 Raw files into LR6. Unfortunately, it still doesn't work for DxO Photo Lab, which still gives an error that it does not support the camera when attempting to load the DNG files. Lightroom 6 is a better processing option than Canon's DPP, though, so this is what I will use until DxO adds the camera to PL.

Thanks for the suggestion.


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Jun 17, 2018 16:57 |  #74

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I had not thought about this option until it was mentioned in this thread. I downloaded the app, and it does work pretty well for getting the CR3 Raw files into LR6. Unfortunately, it still doesn't work for DxO Photo Lab, which still gives an error that it does not support the camera when attempting to load the DNG files. Lightroom 6 is a better processing option than Canon's DPP, though, so this is what I will use until DxO adds the camera to PL.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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Jun 17, 2018 18:48 |  #75

t3iblues wrote in post #18646930 (external link)
Wondering what on-camera microphone M50 folks are using to achieve good audio quality with while shooting 1080 or 4K video? I am looking for one that can pick up the sounds of nature; i.e. has low background "hiss" noise. Thanks.

I am finding M50’s built-in stereo mic is excellent with low noise, very good pre-amp unlike my 5div. I do have Rode micro but rarely have to use it on M50, almlost always with 5div. Have you tried built-in mic with auto gain and auto attenuator? My guess is that for nature you would prefer stereo mic which rules out rode micro.




  
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