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Jun 16, 2018 17:03 |  #1

So, after equipment upgrades, and much expectation, I headed back out at 3 am to get the shot I took with my phone many months ago while sitting at a railroad crossing downtown San Diego.

The results left me flat.

Maybe the lighting was different. Maybe my phone camera, not being very sophisticated, could only give me one option. Plus, I wasn't confident in the safety of the neighborhood at 3 am, so I felt distracted.

Equipment upgrades needed: better tripod with swivel ball head and quick release mount, and a remote shutter control. (I'll take any suggestions you may have for these items) Canon Mark 5D iii...

I will learn more and get more familiar with my new setup and keep plugging away. I've gotten some very nice shots already, plus it was kind of a date night for my wife and I, so after all, it wasn't really wasted time.




  
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Jun 16, 2018 18:04 |  #2

for a remote shutter release an RC-6 will work really cheaply. i think i got my latest (ive lost one and given away a couple) for $7 or less delivered. thats the wireless model...

then the TC-80N3 is the wired model that allows you do interval shooting, countdown timer, bulb and the like. i think mine was $60 used...

tripods i cant comment on because ive got a SLIK with an unknown 2-axis head but other than than i dont know much about tripods...




  
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Jun 16, 2018 19:08 |  #3
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Not sure there is a question in your post. Without further details, it's pretty hard to give you any directions. At least post the image that came out flat and some details on your camera settings.




  
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Jun 16, 2018 20:13 |  #4

I had to search very hard on my social media to find the original, so my memory lied to me about the shot and the lighting from my phone.

Problems:

1) Depth of field, nearer, is less focused, farther is in focus, I'd like to find a better solution to make it more balanced.
2) Domination of the very bright lights midway down the corridor makes the shot difficult to follow, not sure how to fix this.
3) Non-user-friendly tripod (tilt and pan vs ball head) made camera balance and setup difficult in an unfriendly environment (late at night, remote area) with a sloping street (leveled in Lightroom).
4) Possibly using the wrong lens to achieve results.


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Jun 17, 2018 10:31 |  #5

I believe I know the basic concept of what you're trying to accomplish.

The following refers to the top photo only:

1. In this type of shot, usually, focus starts from front and fades away to the center (if that made sense). Since you were shooting on a tripod, manual focus of the lens to get it where you need it to be. Personally, aperture of 5.6 to 7.1 is ballpark to work with (adjust as necessary).
2. If you are referring to the light that is horizontal near the top of the frame, I agree it is distracting. Either crop this out or Lightroom/Photoshop adjustment to tone it down.
3. Your choice on the equipment you use. However, in my eyes, you were set off center to the right side. Not sure if you wanted the train in the shot or not but placement of camera could help eliminate this.
4. Here are a couple of examples that I found that show EXIF info:
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Look through the Art of Architecture thread and see what others have done. Some really great stuff there.

Lastly, like most others would say, this is an art and is open to interpretation. What I prefer can differ greatly from what you are trying to do.

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Jun 17, 2018 19:27 as a reply to  @ Gart's post |  #6

Thanks for the time and the advice




  
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Jun 17, 2018 22:34 |  #7

Tripods vary from $60 (the cheapest I would put a DSLR on) to $1200+. You need to be more specific in what you need - e.g. can it be heavy? Are you only going to use it on flat surfaces? Do you need to make fine adjustments to the ball had position? Do you need a fast setup? Does it need to fold down small? How much are you going to use it - how much abuse will it get?

If you just need something for in-town and it can be heavy, get something nice and chunky. I would still go for an Arca-Swiss type head, and a proper plate the other ones are, IMO a PITA and often come lose, but that is going to add some expense.


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Jun 17, 2018 23:38 |  #8

ejenner wrote in post #18647089 (external link)
Tripods vary from $60 (the cheapest I would put a DSLR on) to $1200+. You need to be more specific in what you need - e.g. can it be heavy? Are you only going to use it on flat surfaces? Do you need to make fine adjustments to the ball had position? Do you need a fast setup? Does it need to fold down small? How much are you going to use it - how much abuse will it get?

If you just need something for in-town and it can be heavy, get something nice and chunky. I would still go for an Arca-Swiss type head, and a proper plate the other ones are, IMO a PITA and often come lose, but that is going to add some expense.

Heavy: Yes
Flat surfaces: no, streets as well as trails
Ball head adjustments: fine if needed, like off setting a slanted trail
Fast setup: preferred, especially in bad neighborhoods
Fold down: Not a deal breaker, can be whatever size, storing in my trunk right now
Use: frequently, doing a lot of night shots
Durability: not climbing or hiking so don't need bomb-proof

I have a ball-head in mind already ( https://www.amazon.com …smid=A117K1DEQY​NJIS&psc=1 (external link) ), but finding the actual tripod itself is proving to be frustrating




  
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Jun 17, 2018 23:55 |  #9

If you're not confident in safety where you are shooting you may want a tripod of materials that will not break on impact with hard surfaces, skulls etc. but is light enough to control. ;)


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Jun 18, 2018 01:17 |  #10

slik pro 700dx is one that's caught my eye, any specific reason it might not be a good choice?




  
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Jun 21, 2018 22:00 |  #11

goalerjones wrote in post #18647136 (external link)
slik pro 700dx is one that's caught my eye, any specific reason it might not be a good choice?

It’s actually a very nice tripod for the price. I started out with one several years ago.


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Jun 22, 2018 06:22 |  #12

I don't know the specific Slik tripod that you are looking at, but the Slik tripod and pan/tilt head that I'm using now was bought by my late father around 1972 or 73 or so. It is still going strong, although the rubber feet that screw up and down over the spiked feet have now perished and split. Also I got the tripod wet with sea water when the local harbour was overtopped by a storm surge/spring tide combination. The water go to about 30 yards from my flat. Fortunately there was another bock between my place and the water. Still despite thoughtly cleaning it the threads on the spikes did corrode and are now jammed. I think the small issue with the corrosion and perished rubber feet on a tripod that is some 45 years old is pretty good. It has tubular legs, and the locking rings still lock up really well. It currently handles my 50D with grip and Sigma 150-600 without any problems at all.

I had considered a Manfrotto as a new tripod when the 055Pro3 was on sale, but what I have isn't really broken, so why fix it?

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Jun 22, 2018 07:26 |  #13

One more suggestion... when you finally set this up on the tripod to get your shots, do a 3 shot bracket, with 1, maybe 2 exposures apart. In fact, what may be best is to take 5 brackets with -2, -1, 0 +1, and +2 for this scene.

This gives you a) the latitude to find the best image to work from and 2) do an HDR merge to produce a lower overall DR final result that might have the impact you are looking for.


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Jun 22, 2018 12:01 |  #14

I went with the Demon DB-44 ball head, and the Slik pro 700. Under $150 For the pair. It's heavy enough to take on many baddies after midnight.

Now, to learn how to use Lightroom to tone down those super bright lights.

And thanks for all the advice. I really appreciate having the ability to dialogue with people who have been where I am now.




  
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Jun 22, 2018 14:29 |  #15

One more suggestion... when you finally set this up on the tripod to get your shots, do a 3 shot bracket, with 1, maybe 2 exposures apart. In fact, what may be best is to take 5 brackets with -2, -1, 0 +1, and +2 for this scene.

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