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Jun 26, 2018 03:16 |  #1

I did a search but must confess on my phone it's making me crazy, so here's my dilemma.

I'm trying to get a good mix within a budget. So far I have a 50mm f1.8, 90mm f2.8 with macro, 75-300mm f4 non IS. Later this week I will be getting a 24-105 L IS which will prolly become my walkaround lens.

My 75-300mm is obviously limited in its use while street shooting. Everyone seems to fawn over their 70-200 L lenses. Yet these lenses obviously aren't cheap, so how do I decide if this expense is worth it?

I shoot many different subjects. I'm building our church database for media and live service backgrounds, so I literally shoot carnivals, shopping carts and landscapes and everything in between (all seen on my gallery page).

These images are potentially going up on a big screen or on the website. I purchased a 5D Mark iii full frame camera for this purpose.

I can write off expenses like equipment since my tax guy said I can treat this as a side business and donate the pictures (just not labor), but I still have to spend the money. Sorry I'm rambling, I'm kind of in lens overload.




  
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Jun 26, 2018 04:38 |  #2

It is a bit difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff in your request. This is what I think you are asking:

I already have a 75-300. Should I consider upgrading to a 70-200L?

Two points to start with:
1.) I'm not sure which lens you own. Canon has never made a 75-300mm f/4.
2.) I'm not sure which lens you are considering. Canon makes (or made) 7 different 70-200mm L-lenses.
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L, & 2.8L IS, 2.8L IS II, & 2.8L IS II (~$800 to $2100)
EF 70-200mm f/4L, & 4L IS, and 4L IS II. (~$450 to $1300)

The first point does not matter. All of Canon's 75-300mm lenses were crap.
The second point does not matter... much. All of Canon's 70-200L lenses are very good.

Going strictly by what you intend to do with the photos, I'd say just stay with the 75-300. On-screen projection and web display are low-demand IQ situations. You'll get very little return on your investment in a better tele-zoom.

On the other hand, your 5D3 will work wonders with any of the Canon 70-200Ls, compared to what you are currently using. From experience, I'd make two recommendations. Unless you have money to burn, and like carrying 3lb+ lenses around, get one of the f/4 versions. If you are NOT shooting sports/action, get one of the IS (Image Stabilized) versions.




  
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Jun 26, 2018 09:40 |  #3

You will have a 24-105 and my guess is it will be on your camera 90% of the time - even if you get an expensive 70-200. I'm guessing you will do that because I travelled with both those lenses. So you want to go from 300mm to 200m. You still have the overlap at 75/70mm is I don't see any advantage in that move.

The only thing that would motivate me to make a change is I have read the 75-300 IQ is not the on the top shelf. That was long ago and version one so I don't know if there is a version 2 of that lens and/or if you have it.

While the 70-200 F4 IS is a tad expensive but is superb and you can find used ones. I have read good things about the latest 70-300 version as well. If that is what you are looking for.


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Jun 26, 2018 10:21 |  #4

Thanks for the replies, and yes, the question breaks down to should I get a 70-200mm L IS lens. And is it needed. (Too many searches and reviews before bed made me batty).




  
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Jun 26, 2018 10:34 as a reply to  @ goalerjones's post |  #5

You might consider the newer 70-300 f4-5.6 IS II nano usm. Lightweight, fast AF, and IQ that's somewhere between good and very good.
There is a review of it within this Forum


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Jun 26, 2018 11:15 |  #6

goalerjones wrote in post #18651656 (external link)
Thanks for the replies, and yes, the question breaks down to should I get a 70-200mm L IS lens. And is it needed. (Too many searches and reviews before bed made me batty).

The internet is both a blessing and a curse. I researched tires a few weeks ago and went to bed with monkey mind. You know when the monkeys swing around and stuff at the zoo. :-) My wife came up with that one.

I loved my 70-200 F4 IS. Sold it to get another lens. It was so sharp I had to carry bandaids in my camera bag. One of the two I regretted most for selling.

However you are loosing 100mm and once in while you wish might wish you had it. You can crop so much with todays sensors you can compensate. I have crop body and picked up an 18-55 and 55-250 STM lenses for light travel. The latest 70-300 looks pretty good as well.

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Jun 26, 2018 11:16 |  #7

oingyboingybob wrote in post #18651662 (external link)
You might consider the newer 70-300 f4-5.6 IS II nano usm. Lightweight, fast AF, and IQ that's somewhere between good and very good.
There is a review of it within this Forum

Yes I was thinking that too. Almost got one but went with the 55-250 STM which I can only use on my crop.


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Jun 26, 2018 12:06 |  #8

It does not sound like you're shooting in a really high-demand environment; I would definitely strike the f/2.8 lenses out of your list. They're big, they're heavy and they won't make a notable difference in your end usage.

Each 100mm works out to, roughly, +/- 25% size of your subject in your frame; so figure whether that's going to matter a lot for the situations/subjects you shoot with your current lens.

What kind of light levels do you get to shoot in with the long lens? Since you grabbed a 5D3 for these shoots, if you're able to get away with your ISO up to about 8000, I would suggest going with a used or refurbished 70-200 f/4 non-IS and use ISO to allow you to keep your shutter speeds up. If not, keep eyes on Canon's site for a refurb f/4 IS.

The f/4s are nice and small; almost pocketable (with cargo pants or large jacket pockets.


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Jun 27, 2018 01:35 |  #9

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM is on its way from Canon refurbished sales ($80 off sale currently). Been reading about these lenses all day and feel this one is a good fit. I know I won't need a "birding lens" like the 400mm variety, but having the extra 100mm over the 200mm lenses does make a difference for me.

When I was getting those seagull pics the other day (see gallery) it was hard to keep my wife's 70-300mm non IS lens still. Now I can give that one back to her again also.

And, as always, thanks for taking the time to reply.




  
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Jun 29, 2018 09:47 |  #10

goalerjones wrote in post #18652159 (external link)
Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM is on its way from Canon refurbished sales ($80 off sale currently). Been reading about these lenses all day and feel this one is a good fit. I know I won't need a "birding lens" like the 400mm variety, but having the extra 100mm over the 200mm lenses does make a difference for me.

When I was getting those seagull pics the other day (see gallery) it was hard to keep my wife's 70-300mm non IS lens still. Now I can give that one back to her again also.

And, as always, thanks for taking the time to reply.

Good choice. Here's a couple of pics taken with this lens.


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