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70-200 f/4 IS II initial impressions and question

 
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Jul 02, 2018 20:15 |  #1

I just got my 70-200 f/4 IS mk ii, have only shot a little with it but it seems great. The fit and finish are great, the focus and zoom rings feel really smooth. In person the color is more light gray and it looks really nice. It comes with a hood, soft pouch, and does not come with the tripod collar. Autofocus is fast and accurate. I don't have any samples yet but everything looks as sharp as you'd expect in camera.


One question I have, a sound is noticeable with shutter half press, and then a few seconds after shutter is released. I assume this is the IS engaging and disengaging, as when I turn off IS the sound doesn't happen and auto focus is nearly silent. Is this normal? I don't hear it on my smaller lenses, but I haven't used a lens with glass this heavy before.


  
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Jul 02, 2018 21:12 |  #2

I don't have version II, but I had version I. It had IS loud enough to wake the dead, maybe even the undead. My guess is that it is OK, especially if you are listening to it in a quiet room.




  
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Jul 03, 2018 03:22 |  #3

The 2.8 mkii IS makes weird noises from the stabilizer. I personally don't like it.


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Jul 03, 2018 10:19 |  #4

eb314 wrote in post #18655356 (external link)
I just got my 70-200 f/4 IS mk ii, have only shot a little with it but it seems great. The fit and finish are great, the focus and zoom rings feel really smooth. In person the color is more light gray and it looks really nice. It comes with a hood, soft pouch, and does not come with the tripod collar. Autofocus is fast and accurate. I don't have any samples yet but everything looks as sharp as you'd expect in camera.


One question I have, a sound is noticeable with shutter half press, and then a few seconds after shutter is released. I assume this is the IS engaging and disengaging, as when I turn off IS the sound doesn't happen and auto focus is nearly silent. Is this normal? I don't hear it on my smaller lenses, but I haven't used a lens with glass this heavy before.

Without any scientific data to back this up, I will go with personal Human experiences on a drum kit. Certain size toms will resonate the snares on a snare drum when you play it. My 7x8 Tom when tuned properly would always cause the snares to rattle. Tuned in a certain note range or frequency. If tuned low and flat, out of tune, snares reduced, Just an awful tone from the Tom. All of the other toms not so much. There's always that one frequency, note range and frequency.
Years ago in 2009 when I bought my 70-200 f/4 L IS, my IS was "Louder" than all of the IS lenses at that time. 24-105 f/4 L IS and the 100-400 L IS. Was there something wrong with the IS. Why is it louder?
Then I went back to my drum kit. The IS has a certain frequency, note to it. The IS dropped into certain drum shells, lens barrels with different heights and widths will certainly become more or less pronounced. Thus creating more resonance. These two combinations will make it sound that the IS is actually "Louder".
Since then the "Louder" IS has never been a burden as it is not a burden when I play my kit and striking that 7x8 tom.
Like the sound of the drum and the images created with my 70-200 f/4 L IS Version1, a smile is always on my face.
Enjoy your new lens.


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Jul 03, 2018 11:44 |  #5

Nick5 wrote in post #18655619 (external link)
Without any scientific data to back this up, I will go with personal Human experiences on a drum kit. Certain size toms will resonate the snares on a snare drum when you play it. My 7x8 Tom when tuned properly would always cause the snares to rattle. Tuned in a certain note range or frequency. If tuned low and flat, out of tune, snares reduced, Just an awful tone from the Tom. All of the other toms not so much. There's always that one frequency, note range and frequency.
Years ago in 2009 when I bought my 70-200 f/4 L IS, my IS was "Louder" than all of the IS lenses at that time. 24-105 f/4 L IS and the 100-400 L IS. Was there something wrong with the IS. Why is it louder?
Then I went back to my drum kit. The IS has a certain frequency, note to it. The IS dropped into certain drum shells, lens barrels with different heights and widths will certainly become more or less pronounced. Thus creating more resonance. These two combinations will make it sound that the IS is actually "Louder".
Since then the "Louder" IS has never been a burden as it is not a burden when I play my kit and striking that 7x8 tom.
Like the sound of the drum and the images created with my 70-200 f/4 L IS Version1, a smile is always on my face.
Enjoy your new lens.

I've been a drummer for almost 60 years and my son plays professionally. First, I suspect very few posters here will completely understand your analogy of the sympathetic vibrations of the very thin snare side head (not the snares themselves) caused by other drums being struck. Actually, all the heads will vibrate to one degree or another sympathetically, as very thin membranes under tension tend to do. It's just that in the case of a snare drum, the snare side head is vibrating against the metal snares causes the sound you hear, but even when the snares are released the head still continues to vibrate. Vibrations from a lot of sources will create the same effect, most notably low frequency tones from an instrument like a bass guitar.

I believe practically everything has a resonance frequency which will cause measurable vibrations if the amplitude is high enough. I am sure there are engineers here who can define the process much better than I can.

Second, and more to the point of this thread, the very noisy IS of the original EF 70-200 L IS USM is not the result of sympathetic vibration, it is a artifact of the design. All sound is the result of vibrations. A change in barrel size might alter the sound and perhaps even dampen the quantity a bit, but the noise itself is not caused by the barrel vibrating. I haven't heard the Mark II version so I have no idea whether it sounds the same as the original version.


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Jul 09, 2018 16:53 |  #6

Hi,

I just got a 70-200 f4 is II that I like very much. I'm using it with a canon 80d and at times add a canon 1.4 x teleconverter. Focusing and image quality is great with or without the teleconverter. Soon after ordering the lens I ordered an Ishoot Lens Tripod Support Collar from Amazon for $24.99 with free shipping.


Today (after 12 days) I received the collar. It seems very sturdy and I like that it has a built in quick release plate. I've been able to configure it on my Sirui K30X ballhead, Movo GH400 Gimbal, and Manfrotto 128LP Micro Fluid Head with a clamp that works with the built in quick release plate. Without using the teleconverter I place plate in the normal position. With the teleconverter I reverse the support collar.

The Ishoot seems like a very good buy.

Jack


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Jul 09, 2018 17:43 as a reply to  @ jack_dorsey's post |  #7

As an update I took some photos over the weekend and this lens is really impressive. Incredible sharpness and great colors and contrast. I'll post some in the sample archives soon.


  
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Jul 09, 2018 21:04 |  #8

if you're listening to the noises your lens make you're not shooting hard enough :-P


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