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Jul 06, 2018 15:14 |  #18196

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I always regarded the 24mm as my preferred tilt-shift unless I just had to shoot wider (extremely limited space). Optically the 24mm is totally superior (sharper, less flare issues, less CA) and visually it produces more pleasing renditions of architecture. Also bear in mind that the shift function means you can capture things at 24mm that you might otherwise need a 16mm standard lens for. And, of course, much easier to pop on a filter on the 24mm.

OTOH, if you go with the 17mm you can turn it into a 24mm by adding a 1.4x TC. But it comes at a cost as it’s making an already less sharp lens even less sharp.

Although you need to to go with your own sense of what you need, I’m going to give this my strong recommendation: start with the 24mm and add the 17mm later if you can. Both would be ideal for you imo.

But wait, there’s a possible glitch to consider: you need a really well-aligned metabones for the 24mm to work best on the a7 series cameras and it’s my understanding that the 17mm is less sensitive to adapter alignment issues. Eddie had disastrous problems with the TS-E 24mm, but I have a well-aligned Metabones IV adapter and have had no major issues with the 24mm on my a7R II.

So my final suggestion is get the TS-E 24mm and if you have any adapter issues I can mail you my adapter and see if it works any better.

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I always regarded the 24mm as my preferred tilt-shift unless I just had to shoot wider (extremely limited space). Optically the 24mm is totally superior (sharper, less flare issues, less CA) and visually it produces more pleasing renditions of architecture. Also bear in mind that the shift function means you can capture things at 24mm that you might otherwise need a 16mm standard lens for. And, of course, much easier to pop on a filter on the 24mm.

OTOH, if you go with the 17mm you can turn it into a 24mm by adding a 1.4x TC. But it comes at a cost as it’s making an already less sharp lens even less sharp.

Although you need to to go with your own sense of what you need, I’m going to give this my strong recommendation: start with the 24mm and add the 17mm later if you can. Both would be ideal for you imo.

But wait, there’s a possible glitch to consider: you need a really well-aligned metabones for the 24mm to work best on the a7 series cameras and it’s my understanding that the 17mm is less sensitive to adapter alignment issues. Eddie had disastrous problems with the TS-E 24mm, but I have a well-aligned Metabones IV adapter and have had no major issues with the 24mm on my a7R II.

So my final suggestion is get the TS-E 24mm and if you have any adapter issues I can mail you my adapter and see if it works any better.

Agree with David here, with the shift function on the 24 from memory a 3 shot pano gives equivalent fov as a 10mm Lens (memory a bit foggy but it’s in that range). I always favoured that one but never tried the 17. Owned the 24 twice. As David said, I had a major issue with alignment of my metabones and ended up selling the lens. I sometimes consider buying another but the alignment thing always puts me off


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Jul 06, 2018 15:28 |  #18197

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Agree with David here, with the shift function on the 24 from memory a 3 shot pano gives equivalent fov as a 10mm Lens (memory a bit foggy but it’s in that range). I always favoured that one but never tried the 17. Owned the 24 twice. As David said, I had a major issue with alignment of my metabones and ended up selling the lens. I sometimes consider buying another but the alignment thing always puts me off

I'm pretty sure 24 is equivalent to 16mm and 17 is equivalent to 12 when shifted.

Ide favor the 24 for more *normal* looking shots


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Jul 06, 2018 15:45 |  #18198

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^ Both look good Gene. Very sharp.

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Guys, should I go for the Canon 24mm or 17mm Tilt Shift lens? I think it's time I get one as it would speed up some of my workflow.

I have shot both a lot...I love the 24mm. I have a good MB adapter, that does not exhibit the issues that Eddie had. 24mm is a great FL for most work. BUT...if you are doing taller buildings at all, 24mm doesn't have the same ability to get the tops in that the 17mm does...
this stretched the abilities of the 17...I couldn't back up anymore than I was...


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Jul 06, 2018 16:15 |  #18199

Thanks Eddie, Charlie, and Travis for the feedback. Hopefully my MB IV is properly aligned.




  
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Jul 06, 2018 16:16 |  #18200

From Petit LeMans last year...just never edited...I will miss the event this year, and am super bummed about it.


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Jul 06, 2018 18:40 |  #18201

DO TC works on primes?

Imagine if the 2X TC works, we can have 170mm F1.4


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Jul 06, 2018 20:29 |  #18202

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DO TC works on primes?

Imagine if the 2X TC works, we can have 170mm F1.4

No. Only certain lenses designs with a deep rear element pocket work with a TC.


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Jul 06, 2018 20:50 |  #18203

The a9 has returned from Precision Camera with the hot shoe fix, a clean sensor and body, and the 3.0 firmware update without the reported anomalies.
Of course it's rainy and crap sky for the return.

It was almost new camera day so off in the gloom to learn that Precision wiped all my custom settings :( Lesson learned there :)


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Jul 06, 2018 21:54 |  #18205

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18657621 (external link)
The a9 has returned from Precision Camera with the hot shoe fix, a clean sensor and body, and the 3.0 firmware update without the reported anomalies.
Of course it's rainy and crap sky for the return.

It was almost new camera day so off in the gloom to learn that Precision wiped all my custom settings :( Lesson learned there :)

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Jul 06, 2018 21:57 |  #18206

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From Petit LeMans last year...just never edited...I will miss the event this year, and am super bummed about it.

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Jul 06, 2018 22:00 |  #18207

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When mine came back from cleaning they had reset the file format to jpeg from RAW..... grrrr might want to check that

Yep they did. Hey, it was free so no complaints. I did setting changes hoping the above would move. Eventually he did.
Oh, first time using DXO and DXO's Prime.

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Jul 06, 2018 23:11 |  #18208

i got the gig for that Japanese restaurant after the test shots i did for them. it's going to be about 100 items. I offered $25/item but they came back with hey our budget for this is only $1500 so it will go down to $15/item. of course i accepted it. wish me goodluck. I'm watching more food photography in creativelive now to make sure i'll get more info to make it successful.

We already set a date and I'm going to loan the FE90Macro from Pro Support. Good opportunity to test the AF speed of the lens as well. if it's at least about the same speed as the 85GM, i might switch to the 90 macro. I shot a family yesterday and I had to be at least at F3.2 to make everyone in focus so the 90F2.8 is good enough for me. It has OSS so it should help. i'm done with bokelicious.


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Jul 06, 2018 23:21 |  #18209

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i got the gig for that Japanese restaurant after the test shots i did for them. it's going to be about 100 items. I offered $25/item but they came back with hey our budget for this is only $1500 so it will go down to $15/item. of course i accepted it. wish me goodluck. I'm watching more food photography in creativelive now to make sure i'll get more info to make it successful.

We already set a date and I'm going to loan the FE90Macro from Pro Support. Good opportunity to test the AF speed of the lens as well. if it's at least about the same speed as the 85GM, i might switch to the 90 macro. I shot a family yesterday and I had to be at least at F3.2 to make everyone in focus so the 90F2.8 is good enough for me. It has OSS so it should help. i'm done with bokelicious.

I've noticed people come around to the FE 90 Macro sooner or later :) I remember listening to Gene but not acting....took me too long. It is a fantastic optic.


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Jul 06, 2018 23:24 |  #18210

vinmunoz wrote in post #18657687 (external link)
i got the gig for that Japanese restaurant after the test shots i did for them. it's going to be about 100 items. I offered $25/item but they came back with hey our budget for this is only $1500 so it will go down to $15/item. of course i accepted it. wish me goodluck. I'm watching more food photography in creativelive now to make sure i'll get more info to make it successful.

We already set a date and I'm going to loan the FE90Macro from Pro Support. Good opportunity to test the AF speed of the lens as well. if it's at least about the same speed as the 85GM, i might switch to the 90 macro. I shot a family yesterday and I had to be at least at F3.2 to make everyone in focus so the 90F2.8 is good enough for me. It has OSS so it should help. i'm done with bokelicious.

Congrats Vinz! Best of luck to you on this project. Test shots looked good.




  
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