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Jul 10, 2018 02:58 |  #526

I don't use Lock-on AF for anything, not even on the a9.
I figure might as well use all the AF point since they are paid for and go Wide.
Really big slow bierds like herons, spoonbills, etc. I might go Center.
The 10iv has an uncanny ability to follow through bramble even without Lock-on.


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Jul 10, 2018 05:37 |  #527

Work in progress regarding night rig. Frustrating that the Godox trigger needs some space between it and the flash.
I'd like to just mount it on the plywood top plate but it won't work anywhere on it. I need about 50mm height on top of the plywood to make it work.
(There's a big RF 'null' close to the trigger)

I don't want to use it on the hot shoe as using the rig at night in the bush getting caught on vines and branches is inevitable.

Could not find any Owls so this Ring-tailed possum was test subject (also Powerful owls favourite prey).
This is about 9.3MP of the original.


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Jul 10, 2018 05:39 |  #528

Good light, with fill flash. Crop is about 7.8MP of the original.


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Jul 10, 2018 05:45 |  #529

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I too, would like to hear what others are using successfully for BIF. I have had reasonably good luck with stills and marginal movement, but BIF results have been spotty. I saved a config using Locked-on "M" zone (or something close to that, I do not have the camera with me) and programmed that to the AEL button. When I press the AEL, I can see the shutter speed, aperture, & ISO change according to my saved config and the green squares illuminate and seem to "lock on" to my desired target when I 1/2 press the shutter button, so it "seems like" it's doing what I want, but despite seeing the squares follow the bird - the the result is usually a horribly out of focus shot or series of shots.

What am I doing wrong?

Here's an example of what happens when I use this focus mode. It's uncropped, so the birds were easily in the focus area and the green dots were locked on.

I don't have much to offer as I haven't tried much BIF with it. I believe distance will play a role however.


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Jul 10, 2018 14:16 |  #530

99% of the time I use AF set to wide for BIF with generally really good results, almost always at f4-5.6 at shutter speeds at or above 1/1000. Unlike my Canon DLSR's, I don't have this one set for back button focus, as I don't find it comfortable on this camera. I just mash the shutter button down and let er rip ;-)a

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Jul 10, 2018 14:34 |  #531

Wide for me, especially with fast small birds. The camera copes extremely well with birds shooting across the lens. I've got a batch of 69 wide continuous focus shots of a puffin flying across in front of me at 24fps... all in focus... ;)

Larger birds I might go to flexible medium (or large) spot.

Shot at 1/800 sec as I wanted some wing blur... ;)


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Jul 10, 2018 14:44 |  #532

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18659696 (external link)
I don't use Lock-on AF for anything, not even on the a9.
I figure might as well use all the AF point since they are paid for and go Wide.
Really big slow bierds like herons, spoonbills, etc. I might go Center.
The 10iv has an uncanny ability to follow through bramble even without Lock-on.

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I don't have much to offer as I haven't tried much BIF with it. I believe distance will play a role however.

Itsed65 wrote in post #18660020 (external link)
99% of the time I use AF set to wide for BIF with generally really good results, almost always at f4-5.6 at shutter speeds at or above 1/1000. Unlike my Canon DLSR's, I don't have this one set for back button focus, as I don't find it comfortable on this camera. I just mash the shutter button down and let er rip ;-)a

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Wide for me, especially with fast small birds. The camera copes extremely well with birds shooting across the lens. I've got a batch of 69 wide continuous focus shots of a puffin flying across in front of me at 24fps... all in focus... ;)

Larger birds I might go to flexible medium (or large) spot.

Shot at 1/800 sec as I wanted some wing blur... ;)

Thanks for the feedback guys! This will give me a few things to play with.


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Jul 10, 2018 15:07 |  #533

EyeSpyEagle wrote in post #18660035 (external link)
Thanks for the feedback guys! This will give me a few things to play with.

Don't know if you saw this image I posted earlier. Gives a bit of a guide to what works for what type of shot... :) (The RX10m4 doesn't have zone, so I think this is either the A9 or A6500...)


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Jul 10, 2018 16:05 |  #534

The tree was 40-50 ft away (a guess) then the angle up. Original and crop. While there is clarity in the shot there is no sharpness and I believe the lack of sharpness is due to the distance. I have several of kingbirds in flight that are the same.


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Jul 10, 2018 16:25 |  #535

Will in Tejas wrote in post #18660084 (external link)
The tree was 40-50 ft away (a guess) then the angle up. Original and crop. While there is clarity in the shot there is no sharpness and I believe the lack of sharpness is due to the distance. I have several of kingbirds in flight that are the same.

I can relate Bill.

I might be inclined to question shutter speed in this example. I'm guessing he bounced some on that branch as he came in to land (or even take off). Ever so slight motion blur?

Admittedly, I am from the Canon camp but would probably have been shooting closer to 1/2500 or 1/3200 with that much light.

The Sony's may do better at lower SS's than my Canon's, so with minimal Sony experience I could be off base.


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Jul 10, 2018 17:04 |  #536

EyeSpyEagle wrote in post #18660094 (external link)
I can relate Bill.

I might be inclined to question shutter speed in this example. I'm guessing he bounced some on that branch as he came in to land (or even take off). Ever so slight motion blur?

Admittedly, I am from the Canon camp but would probably have been shooting closer to 1/2500 or 1/3200 with that much light.

The Sony's may do better at lower SS's than my Canon's, so with minimal Sony experience I could be off base.

This is my BIF setting which I have set to the hold focus button on the lens. The problem with this is auto ISO set to 160 which I could have gone a bit higher. I'm still playing with what works and may likely change to shutter priority. When I shot the 5D3 I used/shot different settings than with the 7D2. Have to learn what works best for the particular camera.


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Jul 10, 2018 19:37 |  #537

Itsed65 wrote in post #18660020 (external link)
99% of the time I use AF set to wide for BIF with generally really good results, almost always at f4-5.6 at shutter speeds at or above 1/1000. Unlike my Canon DLSR's, I don't have this one set for back button focus, as I don't find it comfortable on this camera. I just mash the shutter button down and let er rip ;-)a
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Jul 10, 2018 19:39 |  #538

Eggiez wrote in post #18660029 (external link)
Wide for me, especially with fast small birds. The camera copes extremely well with birds shooting across the lens. I've got a batch of 69 wide continuous focus shots of a puffin flying across in front of me at 24fps... all in focus... ;)

Larger birds I might go to flexible medium (or large) spot.

Shot at 1/800 sec as I wanted some wing blur... ;)
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Jul 10, 2018 20:08 |  #539

Yesterday I went to a park close to my office for lunch and to play with my BIF settings (which spawned my questions a few posts up). Before I got done eating, a storm began to brew right over me and I spotted what looked like Hawks circling above. I went ahead & went out to see if I could get a couple shots & they turned out to be Mississippi Kites.

I know the quality of these shots is nothing to get excited about, but it is exciting to see how much I was able to pull out of the darkness.

The first is nearly straight out of the camera, (silhouette) to give an idea of the conditions. The 2nd is one I lightened up to see what was there and discovered they were Kites (having lunch), not Hawks.

I'm not sure how Auto ISO choose such low setting in these conditions, but it did.


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Jul 10, 2018 20:11 |  #540

As a travel camera, the 600mm effective range can certainly come in handy at times. This is the "Witches Cauldron" the 500 foot wide crater at the top of Wizard Island, the cone that rises out of Crater Lake in Oregon. Shot from a few miles away at a roadside viewpoint.

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