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Jul 20, 2018 10:36 |  #7726

rantercsr wrote in post #18666668 (external link)
that happens with mirrorless in general..

and / or people watch a YT video on "my nightmare switch from canon to sony"
and then repeat everything they heard on forums like this one.
yet they don't keep in mind the video was made years ago, based on the original sony a7 or a7r.( which truly did have bad AF compared to DSlR)

I have to say i made the switch from Canon to Sony and loved it! super fast and accurate AF. I moved from Sony to Fuji and am having some issues like in my picture with the blackout and AF tracking speed.


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Jul 20, 2018 10:41 |  #7727

MatthewK wrote in post #18666688 (external link)
Most excellent response, exactly the kind of impressions I was looking for. Thank you, Alan!

I might slow roll any Fuji acquisitions so that I can try out and appreciate each lens on it's own. There's no hurry, so I have that luxury :) Might start out with the 35 f/1.4 on XT-2 and see how it goes. As for the 100-400 and 50-140, not sure if I'll add them or not.

If you like the 50mm FL the X-t2 and fuji 35 f/1.4 will be a combo you definitely must try. The 35 f/2 fuji lens has faster and quieter AF but it also is also has deeper/thicker dof.

If your really like the responsive body of the 5dmk4 you must truly let that go. The X-t2 is a responsive body but it's not like a Sony A7iii/A9 or D810/1dxmk2/5d4. Your mirrored body's shutter button is instant regardless of bad lighting. Fuji will get a tad slower in AF but the latest AF really hammers the AF motor aggressively trying to speed up Fuji AF.

If you're considering the trinity 35 f/1.4, 56 f/1.2 (maybe apd version) and 90mm f/2 that is a potent combo. You can also consider the 16mm f/1.4 which seems more like my 5dmk3 combo with old gen 24L (That's pretty darn good). The fuji is not even close to our 5dmk4 with 24Lmk2 combo!! but that all depends on your preference in render.

The 50-140mm works well but for my portrait work I cannot really say I prefer it over my 56mm. For casual shots the 50-140mm is just a convenient but sorta expensive lens to throw in your bag. I almost bought a new 100-400 a while back but my last Canon 100-400 collected dust....I'm trying to be sensible......

I love the 10-24mm but the f/4 kinda sucks in family documentation indoors. The new 8-16mm is too expensive for my fun system. I'd rather spend more and buy a GM16-35 for my Sony A7iii for much better high iso performance.

If you are into landscape and want the canvas/painterly/carto​on look the fuji at small aperture can have this smudgy look on the foilage. Canon also presents this type of render. Sony on the other hand will look sharp and highly detailed and lacks that canvas processed look even if you try.

What you'll find is that Fuji has great image quality as long as you like the Fuji render. It's catered to most typical folks so use to looking at processed front page magazine covers. Yes we are all trained to appreciate highly processed magazine spreads :) That is what fuji worked hard in creating the fuji film presets imo.

If Canon produces a mirrorless FF with a 5dmk4 sensor and performance I'll very likely sell my Sony. Fuji IQ is just appealing and silly simple to post process. I'll keep that around for my fun travel stuff and family documentation.


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Jul 20, 2018 11:28 |  #7728

AlanU wrote in post #18666710 (external link)
If you like the 50mm FL the X-t2 and fuji 35 f/1.4 will be a combo you definitely must try. The 35 f/2 fuji lens has faster and quieter AF but it also is also has deeper/thicker dof.

If your really like the responsive body of the 5dmk4 you must truly let that go. The X-t2 is a responsive body but it's not like a Sony A7iii/A9 or D810/1dxmk2/5d4. Your mirrored body's shutter button is instant regardless of bad lighting. Fuji will get a tad slower in AF but the latest AF really hammers the AF motor aggressively trying to speed up Fuji AF.

If you're considering the trinity 35 f/1.4, 56 f/1.2 (maybe apd version) and 90mm f/2 that is a potent combo. You can also consider the 16mm f/1.4 which seems more like my 5dmk3 combo with old gen 24L (That's pretty darn good). The fuji is not even close to our 5dmk4 with 24Lmk2 combo!! but that all depends on your preference in render.

The 50-140mm works well but for my portrait work I cannot really say I prefer it over my 56mm. For casual shots the 50-140mm is just a convenient but sorta expensive lens to throw in your bag. I almost bought a new 100-400 a while back but my last Canon 100-400 collected dust....I'm trying to be sensible......

I love the 10-24mm but the f/4 kinda sucks in family documentation indoors. The new 8-16mm is too expensive for my fun system. I'd rather spend more and buy a GM16-35 for my Sony A7iii for much better high iso performance.

If you are into landscape and want the canvas/painterly/carto​on look the fuji at small aperture can have this smudgy look on the foilage. Canon also presents this type of render. Sony on the other hand will look sharp and highly detailed and lacks that canvas processed look even if you try.

What you'll find is that Fuji has great image quality as long as you like the Fuji render. It's catered to most typical folks so use to looking at processed front page magazine covers. Yes we are all trained to appreciate highly processed magazine spreads :) That is what fuji worked hard in creating the fuji film presets imo.

If Canon produces a mirrorless FF with a 5dmk4 sensor and performance I'll very likely sell my Sony. Fuji IQ is just appealing and silly simple to post process. I'll keep that around for my fun travel stuff and family documentation.

This is the exact reason I'm considering a Fuji. I'm wanting a smaller, fun system to use because I feel like it'll go more places with me. It's going to take some time to figure out just what I want to transition over to the Fuji side, as I love the Canon glass I've been using these past few years. It's also not an all or nothing proposition, as I intend to keep my 5D4 around for birding... might as well keep the 50L and 135L too, as they're my favorite lenses.

I don't know, it's enough to make my head hurt thinking about this!


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Jul 20, 2018 12:06 |  #7729

MatthewK wrote in post #18666671 (external link)
Hey Fuji crew :)

I've mulled over adding a Fuji camera to my system to take the place of my Canon gear under ~200mm. The thing is, I'm stuck on my Canon primes (50L, 85L, 135L) for their look, and if I were to switch I'd want similar in Fuji. From what I've seen, the Fuji glass is exquisite, the problem is trying to find what matches the FL's I have now. Fuji is a 1.5 crop, right?

For over 200mm, aka birding, I'm sticking with my 5D4 and 500L II, but for everything else I can see "down sizing" to the Fuji system because A) I don't think I need the weight of FF anymore, B) I want smaller for more frequent daily use and C) smaller for easier travel.

How would this setup play? From what I've read the 35,56,90 are some of the "magic" lenses in the lineup. Lastly, I'm not sure if I need to keep around the bigger f/2.8 zooms since I hopefully won't be doing paid event work with this kit.

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Fuji 18-55 (24-70?) or 16-55?
Fuji 35 f/1.4 (50mm)
Fuji 56 f/1.2 (85mm)
Fuji 90 f/2 (135mm)
Fuji 50-140 (70-200) or 55-200?
Fuji 100-400, maybe for travel birds?

I'd love to hear your impressions and/or recommendations!


18-55 vs 16-55: this is a choice. The 18-55 is very handy and light. It is also surprisingly good. And it has stabilization. It does not have the fixed f2.8 aperture. I would get the 18-55 if you are getting the primes, since they give you the faster apertures. But I can see reasonable arguments on both sides of this question.

35/1.4 is definitely better than the 35/2 for image quality. The 35/2 requires significant software support. Stick with the 35/1.4.

56/1.2 vs 56/1.2 APD: if you care about how it renders and how the Bokeh looks, get the APD version. To my eye, the Canon 85/1.2 looks better than the regular 56 but the APD version looks better than the Canon. The APD version doesn't focus as quickly as the regular version, but they both focus MUCH better than the Canon. Look at images on Flickr and decide for yourself.

50-140 vs 55-200: on this one, I'm going with the 50-140. For this length, I really think the faster aperture is worth it and it does have stabilization.

If you get the 50-140, I would consider skipping the 90. The 90 is a great lens and if the extra stop in this length is important, get it anyway. But the lack of stabilization in a 135 equivelent makes the lens less versatile. But this is a personal choice based on how you use the system, so there are good arguments the other way.

If I were getting the 50-140 and had the budget for another lens in the range, I would prefer the 80mm macro, but this is more about my needs than yours :).


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Jul 20, 2018 12:11 |  #7730

MatthewK wrote in post #18666671 (external link)
Hey Fuji crew :)

I've mulled over adding a Fuji camera to my system to take the place of my Canon gear under ~200mm. The thing is, I'm stuck on my Canon primes (50L, 85L, 135L) for their look, and if I were to switch I'd want similar in Fuji. From what I've seen, the Fuji glass is exquisite, the problem is trying to find what matches the FL's I have now. Fuji is a 1.5 crop, right?

For over 200mm, aka birding, I'm sticking with my 5D4 and 500L II, but for everything else I can see "down sizing" to the Fuji system because A) I don't think I need the weight of FF anymore, B) I want smaller for more frequent daily use and C) smaller for easier travel.

How would this setup play? From what I've read the 35,56,90 are some of the "magic" lenses in the lineup. Lastly, I'm not sure if I need to keep around the bigger f/2.8 zooms since I hopefully won't be doing paid event work with this kit.

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Fuji 18-55 (24-70?) or 16-55?
Fuji 35 f/1.4 (50mm)
Fuji 56 f/1.2 (85mm)
Fuji 90 f/2 (135mm)
Fuji 50-140 (70-200) or 55-200?
Fuji 100-400, maybe for travel birds?

I'd love to hear your impressions and/or recommendations!

I'll start off by saying I've never shot a bit of glass I liked more than the 135L, I use to make up excused in shoots so I could use it. I don't find the Fuji 90/2 give the same look at all.

Yes Fuji's sensor size is 1.519 compared to Canon's Full Frame one.

But aside from that, I own or have used all the lenses you listed above quite extensively if you like the convenience of a zoom the 16-55/2.8 is amazing (24-84mm) with close focusing & very fast AF to boot. (My review on it is out next month in the Fuji X Passion Mag.). It's a bit of a step up from the 'kit' zoom but that lens is mighty fine if you are OK with variable aperture, it also has great OIS but no weather sealing if that bothers you.

The 35/1.4 is a magical lens, one of the original but also one of the finest IMO, AF not the quickest or quietest.

The 56/1.2 is a brilliant lens, the f/1.2 is great to have and it is sharp. If you are thinking about the APD version it shoots a little darker ( Fuji marked it on the lens) and only used CDAF, the slower contrast detection AF. For portraits not an issue really but for faster moving subjects you probably run into problems.

The 90/2, one I though I'd love more & I kind have learned to but I use the 56/1.2 more for portraits. The 90/2 can focus quite close and is fast in doing that plus it's weather sealed and sharp with nice off bits.

The 50-140/2.8, great mid zoom, for everyday events & portraits. Very quick AF and plenty sharp also it is WR and you can fit a teleconverter to bring it in another 1.4 or 2x. The 1.4 TC is great hardly any loss in IQ when attached, the 2xTC looses a little but not bad. The 1.4TC will give you just 300mm or reach (FF equivalent with only one stop less of light)

The 100-400, is big heavy and you probably will only lug it about when you need the long reach, considering the 50-140+TC option above. Still that being said it is a great lens if it's bright out.

Should be plenty of links in this forums gallery on each lens. The X-T2 is at a really good price right now, I just bought my own one a few days ago. Fuji will be launching a new version of it at the end of the year but you'll pay more for that of course. I use to shoot Canon FF and slowly got more and more into the Fuji system so much so I sold off all the L and Art lenses as well as the cameras, don't miss them at all but I don't often shoot past the 90/2 reach.

Have you tried a Fuji yet? Usually a good idea to give one a spin for a few days to see of you might get on with it.


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Jul 20, 2018 14:32 |  #7731

MatthewK wrote in post #18666671 (external link)
Hey Fuji crew :)

I've mulled over adding a Fuji camera to my system to take the place of my Canon gear under ~200mm. The thing is, I'm stuck on my Canon primes (50L, 85L, 135L) for their look, and if I were to switch I'd want similar in Fuji. From what I've seen, the Fuji glass is exquisite, the problem is trying to find what matches the FL's I have now. Fuji is a 1.5 crop, right?

For over 200mm, aka birding, I'm sticking with my 5D4 and 500L II, but for everything else I can see "down sizing" to the Fuji system because A) I don't think I need the weight of FF anymore, B) I want smaller for more frequent daily use and C) smaller for easier travel.

How would this setup play? From what I've read the 35,56,90 are some of the "magic" lenses in the lineup. Lastly, I'm not sure if I need to keep around the bigger f/2.8 zooms since I hopefully won't be doing paid event work with this kit.

Fuji XT-2
Fuji 18-55 (24-70?) or 16-55?
Fuji 35 f/1.4 (50mm)
Fuji 56 f/1.2 (85mm)
Fuji 90 f/2 (135mm)
Fuji 50-140 (70-200) or 55-200?
Fuji 100-400, maybe for travel birds?

I'd love to hear your impressions and/or recommendations!


I highly recommend checking out the 100-400 for birding... I have one and love it, much nicer than my EF100-400mkI I had, sharper, faster, better rendering... I also use it for landscapes on the 100 to 200 end, sometimes all the way out to 400... I am looking forward to the newly announced XF16-80/4... When I was shooting with Canon, I loved my 24-105/4 and was the one lens I felt I couldn't replace in the Fuji lineup... with the XF18-135, not a constant aperture but with WR and OIS; or the XF16-55, no OIS... Neither ticked all the boxes for me...

The only other Fuji glass I have right now is the 16/1.4, which I also highly recommend if you like wide angles even in the slightest... Really nice lens!!!

Edit: Ohh and the stabilization of the Fuji 100-400 is way better than the Canon 100-400mkI...


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Jul 20, 2018 16:39 |  #7732

Anyone use the Fuji extension tubes? I have a beauty shoot coming up and I wanted to know about it’s limitations when paired with the 50-140. I plan to shoot at around F/8 or F11.


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Jul 20, 2018 17:03 |  #7733

Thought this thread would be teeming with talk om the new Fuji 200mm f2 priced at $6,000 with a five cent rebate. Myself no deal
at that price.




  
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Jul 20, 2018 17:27 |  #7734

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Thought this thread would be teeming with talk om the new Fuji 200mm f2 priced at $6,000 with a five cent rebate. Myself no deal
at that price.

Yeah I think that prices it out of the “normal” Fuji user but those that need/want that f2 at 200mm will shell out for it I’m sure.

Personally I’m more interested in the 33mm f1 and 16-80mm f4. That is if the new leaked road map is real.




  
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Jul 20, 2018 17:48 |  #7735

Don't know why everybody is in a flap about a high quality 200mm f/2 costing about 6K, sure that's what they all cost.

THe 16-80/4 if it is WR and OIS it will be a killer lens I'd bet and the 33/1 with AF might kick off the Mitakon f/0.95 a little, kinda surprised Fuji didn't opt for the 0.95 f/stop or perhaps they did and decided it was not right, who knows.

8-16 will be in my bag day one, already have a buyer for my 10-24 and now selling my Samyang 12/2 and 8/2.8. 8mm rectilinear at last, Fuji do listen to us :love: .

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Anyone use the Fuji extension tubes? I have a beauty shoot coming up and I wanted to know about it’s limitations when paired with the 50-140. I plan to shoot at around F/8 or F11.

I bought some inexpensive ones on amazon you have to get close in, really close in so forget about them just allowing you to get a little bit closer they totally change to focus range, I'll dig up the chart from my files and post it up so you can see the lenses each tube will work on and the distances you'll have.


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Jul 20, 2018 17:52 |  #7736

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Jul 20, 2018 18:39 as a reply to  @ Two Hot Shoes's post |  #7737

Thank you Kim!

I plan to pick up the Fuji one since I might need it a few times over. It might hold me over until it’s time to buy the 80mm.


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Jul 20, 2018 18:51 |  #7738

Osa713 wrote in post #18666921 (external link)
Anyone use the Fuji extension tubes? I have a beauty shoot coming up and I wanted to know about it’s limitations when paired with the 50-140. I plan to shoot at around F/8 or F11.

I didn't try my 50-140 for closeup headshots but I would assume at 140mm you wouldn't need the tubes. I am thinking of buying one for use with my 110mm for food shots.


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Jul 20, 2018 18:56 |  #7739

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Don't know why everybody is in a flap about a high quality 200mm f/2 costing about 6K, sure that's what they all cost.

From initial review it seems 200mm f2 is better than 250mm f4. Personally I think it is bit expensive. Now I would have paid 6k for f1.4 version of this. But lens prices have been going up. Newer Canon versions are as expensive as Nikon's. And when Canon comes with ver II of the 200mm f2, it will be 6k or higher. I also think Fuji should have made that 250mm f4 faster and charged 6k for it.


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Jul 20, 2018 20:06 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #7740

Well you are also getting a 1.4TC along with the F200/2 in the case for our price, it's priced as it was always going to be, more or less IMO, like a 300/2.8 is... You'd have a lot more than 6K for a 1.4/200...

Have you tried your 300/2.8 on the GFX yet?


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