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Jul 21, 2018 15:47 as a reply to  @ post 18667537 |  #7756

I am hoping its not, but if you look at the prices of the other standard zooms, the 18-55 goes for $700, the 18-135 for $900, and the 16-55 for $1200... It's not as fast, but has a constant f4 aperture, so that's why I am guessing it will be right around $1000...


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Jul 21, 2018 15:59 |  #7757

05Xrunner wrote in post #18667527 (external link)
I hope its not more then $550

I don’t see that happening. That would put it just a little more then the XC 16-50mm f3.5-5.6 and less then the 18-55mm f2.8-4. For a lens with more focal range and a constant aperture to come in priced between those it would have to be pretty much a crap lens.

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I suspect it will be more than that... My guess would be around 1K...

That’s what I’m guessing too. Fuji’s other constant f4 lens is $1000 and that doesn’t have weather sealing. I figure it be a little less then the 16-55. Maybe they will replace the 18-55 with it and offer it as the new kit lens and give it then $700 price tag. However I doubt that.




  
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Jul 21, 2018 16:01 as a reply to  @ gremlin75's post |  #7758

Did I see right that it is not supposed to be on the market till 2019? Gives time to save up, will be a definite purchase for me... Was the lens I have been missing after switching from the Canon 24-105/4...


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Jul 21, 2018 16:49 |  #7759

Quick test of the 120fps 5x slowmo on the X-T2. Even the science guy got a fright


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Jul 21, 2018 19:26 |  #7760

I don't have a mid-range zoom since I sold my 18-55 after not using it much. However, I may consider the 16-80 f/4 for travel and to complement the 100-400.


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Jul 21, 2018 21:36 |  #7761

HOLY mother of...

That is some price tag on that 8-16!! YIKES:eek:


I mean I figured $1000+... I was thinking $1400ish range.. but damn!


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Jul 21, 2018 23:40 |  #7762

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Jul 21, 2018 23:42 |  #7763

rantercsr wrote in post #18667701 (external link)
HOLY mother of...

That is some price tag on that 8-16!! YIKES:eek:


I mean I figured $1000+... I was thinking $1400ish range.. but damn!


It's only $2599 CDN!!! so it's only $2911 after tax. That's a fantastic price for a UWA from fuji!!! :cry:-?:rolleyes:

After discovering the Canadian price for the 8-16mm lens I've just decided I'll either buy a Sony GM16-35 or a Canon 16-35 f/2.8mk3 for my other gear. I'm incredibly disappointed in that outrageous price. I've worked for engineering R&D companies so I'm not blindly saying such statements. I highly doubt there will be a large amount of Fuji owners running out buying this highly overpriced piece of glass. I would have considered that price tag if it was an XF16-35 f/2.8 WR.

That price for the Fuji 8-16 (limited range of 12-24mm FF equiv) just doesn't make any sense since it's an APS-C lens limited to 24MP at this moment in time. I'd assume many Fuji landscape shooters would be stopping down the extremely inexpensive manual wide angle primes or use the now considered CHEAP XF 10-24mm f/4.

I'm really looking forward to see how many Fuji shooters will be buying the new 8-16mm and 200mm prime. That's serious coin!


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Jul 21, 2018 23:59 |  #7764

05Xrunner wrote in post #18667537 (external link)
i wouldnt pay that. Hopefully Fuji prices it right

Don't count on it. The 18-55mm is $700 new. For the quality of the glass, it's worth it in my opinion.

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It's only $2599 CDN!!! so it's only $2911 after tax. That's a fantastic price for a UWA from fuji!!! :cry:-?:rolleyes:

After discovering the Canadian price for the 8-16mm lens I've just decided I'll either buy a Sony GM16-35 or a Canon 16-35 f/2.8mk3 for my other gear. I'm incredibly disappointed in that outrageous price. I've worked for engineering R&D companies so I'm not blindly saying such statements. I highly doubt there will be a large amount of Fuji owners running out buying this highly overpriced piece of glass. I would have considered that price tag if it was an XF16-35 f/2.8 WR.

That price for the Fuji 8-16 (limited range of 12-24mm FF equiv) just doesn't make any sense since it's an APS-C lens limited to 24MP at this moment in time. I'd assume many Fuji landscape shooters would be stopping down the extremely inexpensive manual wide angle primes or use the now considered CHEAP XF 10-24mm f/4.

I'm really looking forward to see how many Fuji shooters will be buying the new 8-16mm and 200mm prime. That's serious coin!

You do realize you just defeated your own argument, right?

You said you'll just go ahead and get a 16-35mm... neither of those options go out to 12mm equivalent... or 13, 14, or 15... that's a HUGE difference at that wide focal range.

Although, you could save a bunch of money on a Canon 11-24... oh, wait :rolleyes:

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Jul 22, 2018 00:35 |  #7765

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Don't count on it. The 18-55mm is $700 new. For the quality of the glass, it's worth it in my opinion.

You do realize you just defeated your own argument, right?

You said you'll just go ahead and get a 16-35mm... neither of those options go out to 12mm equivalent... or 13, 14, or 15... that's a HUGE difference at that wide focal range.

Although, you could save a bunch of money on a Canon 11-24... oh, wait :rolleyes:

R&D costs money. Pushing boundaries costs money. You want cutting edge glass, pay the cutting edge prices.

I failed to mention I have no interest in 12mm -15mm since I have not interest in serious landscape and astro photography . The cheaper LAOWA 12mm is fine for the fun budget lens that is quite capable to bridge the gap of having a very UWA angle prime lens.

I use 16-35mm on a full frame for events photography and for general use. Fuji 8-16mm would be equiv to a 12-24mm on full frame and that doesn't hit the semi wide angle sweet spot of a 35mm on FF for me when using a UWA zoom. Using the 35mm range at f/2.8 on a full frame with incredible high iso capability is a potent tool that provides very clean files and has the versatility of providing similar dof compared to a Fuji f/2 prime lens (f/2 x 1.5 - approx f/3 equiv FF dof) but ranges from 16mm to 35mm!! 10-24 f/4 is pretty lame for versatility unless your shooting wideopen and have remote flash and heavily rely on bounce flash for indoors receptions.

Using a GM16-35mm on a Sony A7Riii is also very cool. If you want more "reach" you can use Sony "crop mode" at 35mm (approx 52.5mm reach) and still achieve 18.66MP at a crop factor of 1.5!!!!! Fuji cannot do this. My Sony A7iii is only 10.66MP in crop mode :( but still decent on a crunch!!

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Jul 22, 2018 00:42 |  #7766

I had some sticker shock when I first converted from canon, I just assumed Fuji's glass was supposed to be cheaper because I didn't know any better.
I like that they don't have a lot of super budget glass in every focal length, it seems like a quality over quantity approach.


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Jul 22, 2018 00:45 |  #7767

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I had some sticker shock when I first converted from canon, I just assumed Fuji's glass was supposed to be cheaper because I didn't know any better.
I like that they don't have a lot of budget glass seems like a quality over quantity approach.

So far it appears Fuji glass has gotten more and more expensive. If I look at the Canon price trend the initial cost is high but as years go by the price goes down even when there isn't a newer revision.


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Jul 22, 2018 00:45 |  #7768

That new 200mm f/2 and teleconverter made me chuckle, Love the huge green ring on the lens hood, and the pricing looks good on it. I love that Fuji is there producing some really cool stuff (Like the 33 f/1) even if i dont shoot them :D


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Jul 22, 2018 03:22 |  #7769

XF 8-16/2.8 is €1999 here including taxes. More than I thought by a couple of hundred and still not sure if I get a front lens cap included or is that a €24 optional extra.

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I highly doubt there will be a large amount of Fuji owners running out buying this highly overpriced piece of glass. I would have considered that price tag if it was an XF16-35 f/2.8 WR.

That price for the Fuji 8-16 (limited range of 12-24mm FF equiv) just doesn't make any sense since it's an APS-C lens limited to 24MP at this moment in time. I'd assume many Fuji landscape shooters would be stopping down the extremely inexpensive manual wide angle primes or use the now considered CHEAP XF 10-24mm f/4.

I'm really looking forward to see how many Fuji shooters will be buying the new 8-16mm and 200mm prime. That's serious coin!

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12mm of focal length might not sound like much but the difference from 8mm to 16mm is huge. Much more huge than say 80-96mm. I've been waiting for this for over a year using the 14mm or the 12mm but always wanted Fuji to make a rectilinear 8mm and it's only f/2.8.

Funny calling it overpriced when the reviews say it's near optically perfect, corner to corner wide open, more funny when you consider Sonys pricing of it's lenses, the GM85/1.4 is a whopping [US] $1800. For a standard focal length 1.4 prime, not a specialist lens. OK then. Even Canon is 'only' charging $1600. Speaking of canon they charged $3000 for their 11-24 lens and that was an F/4 lens. It's come down in price a little lately in fairness to only $700 more than the 'overpriced' Fuji 8-16/2.8. At the end of the day it's an 8mm Rectilinear lens @ 2.8 that is near optically perfect, to my eyes for my wants that's worth every penny.

AlanU wrote in post #18667749 (external link)
Using a GM16-35mm on a Sony A7Riii is also very cool. If you want more "reach" you can use Sony "crop mode" at 35mm (approx 52.5mm reach) and still achieve 18.66MP at a crop factor of 1.5!!!!! Fuji cannot do this. My Sony A7iii is only 10.66MP in crop mode :( but still decent on a crunch!!

Wait, the extremely wide 8-16mm F/2.8 is overpriced & the not nearly as wide Sony GM16-35/2.8 isn't - even though it's more expensive. OK then, perspective. For the same 'reach' I can and have cropped in post, same thing.

AlanU wrote in post #18667753 (external link)
So far it appears Fuji glass has gotten more and more expensive. If I look at the Canon price trend the initial cost is high but as years go by the price goes down even when there isn't a newer revision.

Last year or so Fuji glass was getting cheaper with all the rebates going about, remember the rebate on the 16mm f/1.4. This year they are giving those of us who asked a few lenses for specialist applications, Gota love Fuji for being open there.

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That new 200mm f/2 and teleconverter made me chuckle, Love the huge green ring on the lens hood, and the pricing looks good on it. I love that Fuji is there producing some really cool stuff (Like the 33 f/1) even if i dont shoot them :D

I love that colour and the green on the hood is a great nod to Fuji's old broadcast lenses, more please & I agree the price is on point, although no one would complain if was half the price for the same IQ.

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I had some sticker shock when I first converted from canon, I just assumed Fuji's glass was supposed to be cheaper because I didn't know any better.
I like that they don't have a lot of super budget glass in every focal length, it seems like a quality over quantity approach.

Yes. Value = (Quality x Price)/Customer Application.

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You said you'll just go ahead and get a 16-35mm... neither of those options go out to 12mm equivalent... or 13, 14, or 15... that's a HUGE difference at that wide focal range.

Although, you could save a bunch of money on a Canon 11-24... oh, wait :rolleyes:

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Jul 22, 2018 04:29 |  #7770

Fuji also has a history of making some excellent optics, They are HUGE in broadcast for example and they used to have several excellent Medium Format cameras. They can design some great lenses and so far honestly have been from what I've seen

My only thing that kept me from getting Fuji is i just didnt want a second APS-C camera.. so I went Sony. But it was a pretty tough choice (Also i believe and felt Sony AF was better and ergonomics meshed better with me, but i also didnt handle the XH-1 which is what i likely would have bought)


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