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Jul 23, 2018 09:24 |  #16

saea501 wrote in post #18668608 (external link)
And I would disagree with the comment above about the Canon foot being 'crappy'. Mine surely isn't.

Is there anything that you particularly like about the Canon foot?

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........but then I got the only Canon 6D that can focus on moving subjects too......so I must be a really lucky guy. :rolleyes:

My 6D also focuses on moving subjects. . Unfortunately, only the center point really keeps up with the moving subjects, and I have misses when I try to use the outer points for tracking fast motion, which is a bummer because rarely will I ever want a moving subject in the middle of the frame, and I don't like to crop.

But yeah, your 6D isn't the only one that can track moving subjects, if we're talking about the center point.


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Jul 23, 2018 12:19 |  #17

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18668620 (external link)
Is there anything that you particularly like about the Canon foot?


What I like is that it does what it's designed to do. Holds the lens to a tripod or my Black Rapid. What more does it need to do? You certainly don't need to throw $200 at it to correct some perceived 'crappiness'.

Unless, of course, that just makes your head feel better. Then by all means.........


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Jul 23, 2018 12:41 |  #18

saea501 wrote in post #18668739 (external link)
What I like is that it does what it's designed to do. Holds the lens to a tripod or my Black Rapid.

Well ..... mine doesn't hold the lens to my tripods, because it is not compatible with the heads that I use, but I can mount a speed plate to it, and then the speed plate will mount to the tripod head. . I think the complaint that the OP and others have with it is that it is not compatible with the most commonly used mounting system, and needs an "adapter" in order to mount the lens to the Arca-style heads that they use.

What kind of tripod mount do you use, in which you do not have the need for an Arca-style speed plate? . Does it indeed allow you to mount the foot directly to the tripod head, without any kind of in-between device?

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What more does it need to do?

I don't need it to do anything, but it would be nice if it did allow the lens to be mounted to Arca heads without having to buy a separate speed plate. . Having to use adapters to mount one thing to another thing never seems to be quite as good as mounting them to each other directly. . But personally, I like really long speed plates, and if the Canon foot did come with vee grooves machined into it, I doubt that it would be much longer than it is now, so I would end up having to buy a separate speed plate anyway, in order to get the length that I prefer.

It'd also be nice if it had more clearance between itself and the lens, so that it could be more easily used as a carry handle. . I use mine as a carry handle, but it is awkward and uncomfortable because the space is so narrow that it's difficult to get my fingers in there for proper grabbing.

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saea501 wrote in post #18668739 (external link)
You certainly don't need to throw $200 at it to correct some perceived 'crappiness'.

No, you certainly don't. . I only had to throw about $50 at it in order to get it to mount to my tripod heads. . A nice long Arca speed plate is all it took. . I can use the Canon foot and just mount the speed plate to that, instead of having to get a whole new foot. . Of course, a whole new foot would be much simpler and better, but as you say it could cost as much as $200.

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Jul 23, 2018 13:24 |  #19

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18668751 (external link)
I think the complaint that the OP and others have with it is that it is not compatible with the most commonly used mounting system...

Actually, I’d say the plain 1/4”x20 threaded screw is the most commonly used mounting system.

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Well ..... mine doesn't hold the lens to my tripods, because it is not compatible with the heads that I use, but I can mount a speed plate to it, and then the speed plate will mount to the tripod head.

And I don’t like this lens because I have to add a camera body to make it take pictures. ;-)a

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Jul 23, 2018 13:37 |  #20

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Actually, I’d say the plain 1/4”x20 threaded screw is the most commonly used mounting system.

So people actually thread a screw from the tripod to the foot? . That is surprising to me; I have never seen a screw poking out of a tripod head, and didn't know that tripod heads come with 1/4"x20 screws. . I have bought three tripod heads, and all have come with Arca-style clamp systems. . I didn't realize that there were other ways of doing it.

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And I don’t like this lens because I have to add a camera body to make it take pictures. ;-)a

That is not at all similar to what I was saying, and therefore makes for a very poor analogy.

A more fitting analogy would be when someone says, "I don't like this lens because I have to use an adapter to get it to work with my camera - I'd rather use native glass." . . . That is much more akin to what I was saying when I commented about the need for speed plates to go between the foot and the tripod head.

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Jul 23, 2018 14:04 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #21

It isn't the head that has the screw, but the legs. The screw is what you would attach your head onto. You can forgo the head and attach the camera/lens/foot to the tripod/monopod leg(s) directly if so desired. You just have to either remove the screw adapter or invert the screw depending on how it is from the manufacturer.

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Actually, you also have a screw on the head connecting the head to the clamp also - It's how people swap out for different plate systems or switch from a standard screw clamp to a quick release. I assume you can get a male to male screw and use that to attach directly to the head.


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Jul 23, 2018 14:44 |  #22

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It isn't the head that has the screw, but the legs. The screw is what you would attach your head onto.

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But that screw is typically 3/8" in diameter, not 1/4"x20. . So I don't think we're talking about the same screw.


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Jul 23, 2018 14:47 |  #23

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18668751 (external link)
Well ..... mine doesn't hold the lens to my tripods, because it is not compatible with the heads that I use, but I can mount a speed plate to it, and then the speed plate will mount to the tripod head. . I think the complaint that the OP and others have with it is that it is not compatible with the most commonly used mounting system, and needs an "adapter" in order to mount the lens to the Arca-style heads that they use.

What kind of tripod mount do you use, in which you do not have the need for an Arca-style speed plate? . Does it indeed allow you to mount the foot directly to the tripod head, without any kind of in-between device?

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I don't need it to do anything, but it would be nice if it did allow the lens to be mounted to Arca heads without having to buy a separate speed plate. . Having to use adapters to mount one thing to another thing never seems to be quite as good as mounting them to each other directly. . But personally, I like really long speed plates, and if the Canon foot did come with vee grooves machined into it, I doubt that it would be much longer than it is now, so I would end up having to buy a separate speed plate anyway, in order to get the length that I prefer.

It'd also be nice if it had more clearance between itself and the lens, so that it could be more easily used as a carry handle. . I use mine as a carry handle, but it is awkward and uncomfortable because the space is so narrow that it's difficult to get my fingers in there for proper grabbing.

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No, you certainly don't. . I only had to throw about $50 at it in order to get it to mount to my tripod heads. . A nice long Arca speed plate is all it took. . I can use the Canon foot and just mount the speed plate to that, instead of having to get a whole new foot. . Of course, a whole new foot would be much simpler and better, but as you say it could cost as much as $200.

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Jul 23, 2018 15:29 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #25

Oh no.........I got it.


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Jul 23, 2018 16:40 as a reply to  @ post 18668608 |  #26

the foot on the 100-400L II has the rap of being "crappy". I didn't have a problem with mine but I dislike the design of the entire lens collar and I did upgrade to a Kirk foot since I needed a long Arca Swiss plate anyway. after installing the kirk plate I still had some wobble because of loose screws beneath the interface where the foot attaches.


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Jul 23, 2018 16:42 as a reply to  @ saea501's post |  #27

I paid $80 for a kirk foot, a long arca swiss plate would have cost me about $50. there are many threads about problems with this foot.


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Jul 23, 2018 18:15 |  #28

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the foot on the 100-400L II has the rap of being "crappy". I didn't have a problem with mine but I dislike the design of the entire lens collar and I did upgrade to a Kirk foot since I needed a long Arca Swiss plate anyway. after installing the kirk plate I still had some wobble because of loose screws beneath the interface where the foot attaches.

Mine is still fairy new with no wobble. I bought the kirk piece because of the ability to mount. how old is your lens when you swapped to the kirk foot? Did it wobble bad?


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Jul 23, 2018 18:35 |  #29

saea501 wrote in post #18668608 (external link)
I've never seen any tri or monopod that didn't use a 1/4-20 screw.

And I would disagree with the comment above about the Canon foot being 'crappy'. Mine surely isn't.

........but then I got the only Canon 6D that can focus on moving subjects too......so I must be a really lucky guy. :rolleyes:

EDIT: I replied twice, assuming I was the one who said the foot was crappy. I did not, in this thread, but I have elsewhere.

I would not label something crappy without a reason.

Mine failed in a short period of time. The threads in the ring that the 4 x micro screws (2mm!) go into stripped.

If you are unlucky and this happens to you, Canon can supply a new ring, for AU$820. That is ring only, the small plate with the 5mm thread, the 4 screws and the foot are extra.
Then the lens will need to be disassembled to replace the ring. The lens is AU$2500 so that's near enough to 1/3rd the cost of the lens for an incomplete tripod ring that you cannot fit.

So in my opinion, crappy, stupid, rip off and ridiculous are all appropriate descriptions.


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Jul 23, 2018 18:42 |  #30

However, you say, this has not been a widespread problem, has it?
If it were not to POTN I think it undoubtedly would be.

Now that is my opinion but nobody can state it as fact or fiction. Well, they can, but either way they would be wrong.

I do concede that there was failure on my part, if I had acted on the warnings posted on POTN I could probably have avoided the problems I had.
In a perfect world, Canon could have made the ring and foot the same as the last 50 they made and I would not have needed POTN warnings.


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