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Jul 26, 2018 21:45 |  #46

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Yeah at Strobepro the $/Ws is the same for both the Pro models, buy the 400 or pay 50% more for the 600.

So far there really isn't a best buy between the two of them so you have to figure out do you want less power and smaller form factor or not?


Or buy 2 ad200 and the twin head and have more versatility?


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Jul 27, 2018 03:53 |  #47

71sbeetle wrote in post #18671557 (external link)
Or buy 2 ad200 and the twin head and have more versatility?

Which ignores the advantages of the pro, I'm struggling to think of a reason I'd want to use a pair of AD200's in the twin head over an AD400 pro.

I'd much rather have the AD400 pro and an AD200 than just a pair of AD200's.




  
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Jul 27, 2018 04:35 |  #48

Obviously the advantage of two AD200s VS one AD400Pro is in keeping the cost relatively close but getting two sources to one.

By your logic, I'm struggling to see the advantage of a 400Pro and 200 combo versus just getting two 600Pros ;)

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Which ignores the advantages of the pro, I'm struggling to think of a reason I'd want to use a pair of AD200's in the twin head over an AD400 pro.

I'd much rather have the AD400 pro and an AD200 than just a pair of AD200's.


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Jul 27, 2018 06:12 |  #49

jlafferty wrote in post #18671697 (external link)
Obviously the advantage of two AD200s VS one AD400Pro is in keeping the cost relatively close but getting two sources to one.

By your logic, I'm struggling to see the advantage of a 400Pro and 200 combo versus just getting two 600Pros ;)

That's not my logic, I said a pair of AD200's in the twin head and you're ignoring cost as the AD600 pro costs 50% more than the AD400 or AD200 pair, two AD600 pro's is the same as buying six AD200's and two and a bit AD400's. To make it absolutely clear, my point was if you're mostly using the twin head I think you can cut out the middle man and just get an AD400 as I don't see a downside and there's plenty of advantages.

If the size/weight/cost advantages of a single AD200 are what you need then sure that's a good argument for one, I currently have a couple of AD200's and I'm not sure if I should keep both or just one when getting the AD400, wouldn't be surprised if I kept everything although I really need to trim the equipment.




  
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Jul 27, 2018 06:20 |  #50

You actually said two things that were different and I took issue with the second. It's not a big deal. I may have been weighing in while missing some earlier comment.

I totally agree if you're thinking of getting a 400ws source, then the 400Pro over the 2x200 and twin bracket is the way to go.

edit: keep it all! A single 400 and two 200s is a great little kit!

simonbarker wrote in post #18671729 (external link)
That's not my logic, I said a pair of AD200's in the twin head and you're ignoring cost as the AD600 pro costs 50% more than the AD400 or AD200 pair, two AD600 pro's is the same as buying six AD200's and two and a bit AD400's. To make it absolutely clear, my point was if you're mostly using the twin head I think you can cut out the middle man and just get an AD400 as I don't see a downside and there's plenty of advantages.

If the size/weight/cost advantages of a single AD200 are what you need then sure that's a good argument for one, I currently have a couple of AD200's and I'm not sure if I should keep both or just one when getting the AD400, wouldn't be surprised if I kept everything although I really need to trim the equipment.


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Jul 27, 2018 08:38 |  #51

I'm wondering if there isn't a build quality difference between the AD200 and the higher models, particularly the Pro line. I'm hearing a continuous trickle of issues with AD200 flashes. It might be a matter of greater error or mistreatment by users ("After I dropped it, it doesn't work right. Anyone else with that problem?")--or the Pro line might be a better manufactured product.


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Jul 27, 2018 08:52 |  #52

RDKirk wrote in post #18671770 (external link)
I'm wondering if there isn't a build quality difference between the AD200 and the higher models, particularly the Pro line. I'm hearing a continuous trickle of issues with AD200 flashes. It might be a matter of greater error or mistreatment by users ("After I dropped it, it doesn't work right. Anyone else with that problem?")--or the Pro line might be a better manufactured product.

There was a 600 and then they made a PRO version

There was a 360 now replaced? by a 400PRO

Possible Conclusion

The AD200 may be joined by an AD200 PRO at some stage


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Jul 27, 2018 10:08 |  #53

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For folks in US, wait for the Thanksgiving weekend and hope Adorama has a nice sale.

Or buy it with a credit card that offer price protection within 90 days and enjoy it now. It's probably on sale for $50-100 cheaper by Thanksgiving.


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Jul 27, 2018 10:10 |  #54

simonbarker wrote in post #18671686 (external link)
Which ignores the advantages of the pro, I'm struggling to think of a reason I'd want to use a pair of AD200's in the twin head over an AD400 pro.

I'd much rather have the AD400 pro and an AD200 than just a pair of AD200's.

I have 2-AD200 and 1AD600B. I'm thinking of selling it all and get AD400 pro for wedding/engagement work.

AD200 is too weak for HSS during the day and AD600 too heavy. AD400 is just right.

AD400 should fit into a camera bag right? I have Lowepro Protactic 450 AW. I just need this light, a portrait lens and wide lens (Sigma 135 1.8 & Tamron 15-30) and I should be able to do some works.


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Jul 27, 2018 10:16 |  #55

RDKirk wrote in post #18671770 (external link)
I'm wondering if there isn't a build quality difference between the AD200 and the higher models, particularly the Pro line. I'm hearing a continuous trickle of issues with AD200 flashes. It might be a matter of greater error or mistreatment by users ("After I dropped it, it doesn't work right. Anyone else with that problem?")--or the Pro line might be a better manufactured product.

Godox had a big problem with faulty 360 batteries a few years ago. They did replace a lot of them, but I think they could have done a better job, and there are probably a lot of them still out there.

It would not surprise me at all to see something similar with the 200 or really any product. They blamed the battery issue on another manufacturer/supplier, I wonder if the 200 bulb is manufactured by a vendor?


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Jul 27, 2018 10:58 |  #56

My impulse would be to attribute this to user base. Many people who buy a $300 speedlight-sized studio light are using them for weddings/events and are not known for treating their gear gently, nor are the conditions particularly gentle. I have the 200 and am shocked/amused by stories people have of damaging them in transit, but then I pad them well, in a hard case, and I've never had a light stand fall over because I've had presence of mind to prepare for a reasonably safe set, and put extra money into my stands knowing I should. But of course, my line of work allows for it, whereas some shooters aren't as fortunate.

Coming at this from another angle, I will say the 200 performs more closely to the 360 II as opposed to the original 360. This suggests to me that their build tolerances got better, and the 200 benefitted from it.

The faulty battery story with the 360's power pack is now... 4 years old IIRC.

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I'm wondering if there isn't a build quality difference between the AD200 and the higher models, particularly the Pro line. I'm hearing a continuous trickle of issues with AD200 flashes. It might be a matter of greater error or mistreatment by users ("After I dropped it, it doesn't work right. Anyone else with that problem?")--or the Pro line might be a better manufactured product.


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Jul 27, 2018 12:31 |  #57

RDKirk wrote in post #18671770 (external link)
I'm wondering if there isn't a build quality difference between the AD200 and the higher models, particularly the Pro line. I'm hearing a continuous trickle of issues with AD200 flashes. It might be a matter of greater error or mistreatment by users ("After I dropped it, it doesn't work right. Anyone else with that problem?")--or the Pro line might be a better manufactured product.

I had an AD200 which would lose the connection to the flash tube if you put pressure at certain points of the case, which wouldn't normally be a problem but of course you have to mount it if you want to use it with the twin head or speedring adapter which puts pressure in the wrong places.

I saw a few other people with this issue so I think it's down to a design which isn't quite 'robust enough' and you'd hope the Pro heads being quite expensive were sturdier but even if they're not they don't have to worry about taking the strain on random bits of the case but rather the bits designed to take that strain (mount and stand adapter).




  
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Jul 27, 2018 17:37 |  #58

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Or buy it with a credit card that offer price protection within 90 days and enjoy it now. It's probably on sale for $50-100 cheaper by Thanksgiving.

Only Thanksgiving is out more than 100 days.:-D


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Jul 27, 2018 17:38 |  #59

AD200 display is just pain to read outside and I don't want to use two of them together.


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Jul 29, 2018 13:50 |  #60

bobbyz wrote in post #18672059 (external link)
Only Thanksgiving is out more than 100 days.:-D

Thanksgiving is Nov 22nd this year. 90 days from it is August 24. The AD400Pro isn't shipping until early Sept.

Wait until early Sept to buy it & take advantage of the CC protection.

With the price of $650, I doubt there would be many pre-order if they have price it around $550.


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