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Aug 16, 2018 01:26 |  #16

Angmo wrote in post #18675397 (external link)
Ive got the previous generation Eli Ranger RX AS Speed. 1,100 ws. With the new Spyport I shoot it HS 2.8 1/8000 without a sweat.

That's fantastic! I love the humming bird image.

What do you have as the receiver on your Ranger? And which camera gets you to 1/8000th?


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Aug 16, 2018 02:44 |  #17

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Do you think shooting with a HS head would be better then using a action head when it comes to available power. I'm worried when shooting HS my throw will decrease. The specks don't really say anything about flash duration for the HS head. I understand that duration won't be much problem seeing shutter speed would then be your friend. Just having trouble deciding between the action head and HS head at this point.

The issue that Elinchrom had to resolve when making the HS head was that they had always done a great job of obtaining short flash durations. the HS head is a bit of a contradiction then, they call it HS which most accept to mean High Speed when in fact what they had to do was make a longer flash duration so that it could be used in Hyper Sync (as some would call it) as in Tail Sync, now I have never seen a capture of the HS output showing the peak and fall off but from conversations with an Elinchrom rep they made the peak less obvious and extended the duration - same power just spread

Issue with tail sync is that the tail drops off and you get less power towards the end of the exposure, whereas with true HSS (High Speed Sync, the pulsed variety) you get consistent power across the whole of the exposure

The other point that seems to get forgotten with the HS head is that shutter speed controls the flash power just like it does with HSS so at 1/4000 you have approx 1/2 the power you had at 1/2000 for both systems, where the HS head scores is that you do not get that large initial power drop when going above X-Sync

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Aug 16, 2018 12:46 |  #18

F2Bthere wrote in post #18685096 (external link)
That's fantastic! I love the humming bird image.

What do you have as the receiver on your Ranger? And which camera gets you to 1/8000th?

Receiver is the Elinchrom Skyport RX receiver and an Elinchrom adapter for the Ranger. Camera was a Nikon D300

The second post in this thread was 1/2000 f3.1 outdoors with bright sun behind the model. D300, Ranger pack. Pack was at least 30 feet away. Lots of power to spare. I’ll head out soon and use the new Nikon D850.


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Aug 16, 2018 18:08 |  #19

Angmo wrote in post #18685370 (external link)
Receiver is the Elinchrom Skyport RX receiver and an Elinchrom adapter for the Ranger. Camera was a Nikon D300

The second post in this thread was 1/2000 f3.1 outdoors with bright sun behind the model. D300, Ranger pack. Pack was at least 30 feet away. Lots of power to spare. I’ll head out soon and use the new Nikon D850.

Thanks!

I have and love my Ranger. But I didn't know it would do HS with the transmitter pro (I thought the Elinchrom site said it wouldn't, but it was a while ago I looked).

The reason this grabbed my interest is that they are about to release a Fuji controller. I have been using my pocket wizards but HS would be great.


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Aug 16, 2018 18:24 |  #20

F2Bthere wrote in post #18685546 (external link)
Thanks!

I have and love my Ranger. But I didn't know it would do HS with the transmitter pro (I thought the Elinchrom site said it wouldn't, but it was a while ago I looked).

The reason this grabbed my interest is that they are about to release a Fuji controller. I have been using my pocket wizards but HS would be great.

I picked up the Transmitter Pro Skyport with the LCD display. When it was first offered. The Ranger RX AS Speed pack uses the normal RX receiver. It works right out of the box using the standard Elinchrom head (S Head). F2.8 1/8000 shutter speed no problems. Elinchrom website has a list of camera compatibility.

Oh. Indoors - nice to get f1.4 - 2.8 in studio with the ranger strobe.


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