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Aug 23, 2018 17:43 |  #16

Thanks everyone; it's looking like, all combined, the f/4's likely to wind up the winner here. I appreciate all of the input 8-)


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Aug 23, 2018 17:47 |  #17

$840 for a barely used lens seems like a deal to me!
https://www.amazon.com …=8-1&keywords=16-35+canon (external link)

As Amazon tailors its customer service around buyers, there is very little risk. Their A-Z policy is great for the buyer, it stinks if you are the seller ( and I have had to deal with returns just because of that policy).


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Aug 23, 2018 17:51 |  #18

Additionally, here are some listings (new and used) as tracked by CPW:
https://www.cpricewatc​h.com …5mm-f4L-IS-USM-price.html (external link)

As low as 809 used from MPB or 829 from Adorama.


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Aug 23, 2018 17:53 |  #19

That adorama listing has my interest for sure!


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Aug 23, 2018 18:03 |  #20

The 16-35 f/4 is also often available through Canon's refurbished site for just under $800 and comes with the same warranty as new. That's where I got mine and I could not tell it from new. I've owned the version 2 f/2.8 16-35 for years and the f/4 is definitely its superior. The version 3 f/2.8 is said to be an exceptional lens, but for an additional $1K or so, it should be. If you're not likely to be shooting a subject that's moving in low light, the IS of the f/4 should help you get those low-light shots you mention. If you're shooting movement, and money's not an issue, get the version 3 f/2.8.


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Aug 23, 2018 18:06 |  #21

wunhang wrote in post #18691222 (external link)
Additionally, here are some listings (new and used) as tracked by CPW:
https://www.cpricewatc​h.com …5mm-f4L-IS-USM-price.html (external link)

As low as 809 used from MPB or 829 from Adorama.

I'll keep an eye on that list; since it isn't a "need now" scenario, I'll likely wait for it to show up on the Canon Refurb market...but, maybe I'll cave before then, too :p


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Aug 23, 2018 21:50 as a reply to  @ Snydremark's post |  #22

CPW has an automated notification capability on that page. Just give them your email and the system will let you know if there's price changes, new used stock, or deals for that lens.


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Aug 23, 2018 22:01 |  #23

Even if you buy the 16-35mm f4 retail, it's still a good deal! My other zooms are 2.8, but because it's UWA, f4 was fine with me. The IQ is great....and I'm sure what differences with the new 2.8 III are pretty minor from an IQ standpoint. With it being IS, and at wide angles, there's even situations where you can get close to 1 sec hand held.


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Aug 24, 2018 08:09 |  #24

Snydremark wrote in post #18691212 (external link)
Thanks everyone; it's looking like, all combined, the f/4's likely to wind up the winner here. I appreciate all of the input 8-)

The 16-35 f/4 IS does seem to check all the boxes of your requirements. I upgraded from the 17-40L to this lens when it was first available, and really love it.


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Aug 24, 2018 13:22 |  #25

I purchased the 16-35 f/4 L. It's OK, overall. A bit soft in the corners. The main issue I have with it is that it's a dust pump; maybe something with its design, dunno, but pretty much whenever I mount it I end up with dust on the sensor.


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Aug 24, 2018 14:23 as a reply to  @ Alveric's post |  #26

Put a filter on the front, it may have the same issue as other lenses where dust from the front of lens gets pulled and thrown back to the mirror box. A filter might help eliminate that.


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Aug 24, 2018 15:00 |  #27

Another +1 for the 16-35 f/4 IS.

The f/2.8 III does beat it for ultimate sharpness, but unless you really need f/2.8 (maybe for astro work) the IS is hard to overlook (for me anyway).


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Aug 24, 2018 16:16 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #28

I always have filters on my lenses to protect the front element. That's not the problem.

I'm thinking dust came in through the very open mount end, got trapped in the innards and then travels to the sensor during operation.

See the issue, and it's not even a small aperture:


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Aug 24, 2018 16:32 |  #29

It's all about your "A" or "B" options listed. No need to look further.

-Then you have decide on price point vs. the importance or usefulness of f/2.8

For me, I am not going to shoot 16mm @ f/2.8 more than once every three years (if I had f/2.8)
But that's me.

Maybe you like to use 16-35mm for event shooting in low light, or wide angle astro photography etc..

With the f/4 if the IS is not enough, it's going on a tripod and f/2.8 isn't going to matter.

The IS definitely gives you more hand hold-ability in low light than f/2.8 does.


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Aug 24, 2018 16:56 |  #30

Does the in camera lens correction fix the corner distortion (at 16mm) on the 16-35, if it has any?


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