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Sep 05, 2018 23:30 |  #151

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Sep 06, 2018 00:46 |  #152

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Does anyone else look at the drop-in filter adapter, and wonder how strong the middle section needs to be in order to give the same amount of structural strength as the basic adapter?

No need to worry. Canon has been making this design into its big heavy superteles for years without issues. It doesn’t seem to decrease their structural integrity any.


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Sep 06, 2018 02:34 |  #153

I remember a few years ago when Canon were extolling the virtues of DPAF on their new camera the vast number of people here commented that it made no difference to them because very few people were interested in video on an SLR.

Funny how times change, a lot of the negative noise about this camera derived from the fact that the 4k video has a crop factor :-)


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Sep 06, 2018 03:22 |  #154

Chris_R wrote in post #18701283 (external link)
That's an error, it doesn't have IBIS.
However the software lens correction is applied to video, like stated in your second picture.

Digital Image Stabilization is not IBIS. It is Stabilization however as the name implies. It does occur in the body.
It is done by software. When using video and not all the sensor is being used, ie cropped, software can compensate for movement by using pixels outside of the crop area.
It is not as effective as IBIS or modern lens IS, but it does provide some Stabilization.

https://www.lifewire.c​om …mage-stabilization-488000 (external link)

Digital Lens Optimizer is not related to Stabilization and only works with RAW files. (until the 5DIV where it will work with JPEGs)
Changes to the image are made by DPP.
https://support.usa.ca​non.com …ent&id=ART16283​9&actp=RSS (external link)


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Sep 06, 2018 03:41 |  #155

There is this Fv mode. may I ask what is this mode?
looks like P mode with intelligent safety shift....  :p

Think the 6D mark II is at risk....


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Sep 06, 2018 05:15 |  #156

Ah-keong wrote in post #18701521 (external link)
There is this Fv mode. may I ask what is this mode?
looks like P mode with intelligent safety shift....  :p

One of the Canon videos mentions it like Av/Tv/P all-in-one.

Ah-keong wrote in post #18701521 (external link)
Think the 6D mark II is at risk....

At $1599 or less, its pretty safe...for now...


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Sep 06, 2018 05:28 |  #157

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Sep 06, 2018 05:34 |  #158

Fart mode. When your photos stink flip to Fv and canon magic will Turn your images into award winning shots


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Sep 06, 2018 06:52 |  #159

Dlee13 wrote in post #18700679 (external link)
I only have the A7III but I think this is a really good body!

Being that this is their entry level body, the only real downside I see is NO IBIS. Where has the sensor DR been confirmed?

I haven't seen anything about sensor DR: but if it's like the 5D4, it should be like 5D4. They have stated CLog video gives around 12 stops (that's not sensor DR). While it has the same crop factor for 4K video, at least it has a modern video codec. As for my impressions: seems like a good first step for Canon. It's no Sony killer, but it seems better then Nikon's first offering. People's impressions are that it has better ergonomics, and Nikon's major Z lenses aren't being released until later.


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Sep 06, 2018 07:01 |  #160

Talley wrote in post #18701555 (external link)
Fart mode. When your photos stink flip to Fv and canon magic will Turn your images into award winning shots

Ffs :rolleyes:we get it, you're not keen, just get over yourself because...
1;no one cares
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Sep 06, 2018 07:23 |  #161

bildeb0rg wrote in post #18701579 (external link)
Ffs :rolleyes:we get it, you're not keen, just get over yourself because...
1;no one cares
And
B;no one cares

1. I care
b. comes after A
3. chances are I'll own one

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Sep 06, 2018 07:37 |  #162

Choderboy wrote in post #18701515 (external link)
Digital Image Stabilization is not IBIS. It is Stabilization however as the name implies. It does occur in the body.
It is done by software. When using video and not all the sensor is being used, ie cropped, software can compensate for movement by using pixels outside of the crop area.
It is not as effective as IBIS or modern lens IS, but it does provide some Stabilization.

https://www.lifewire.c​om …mage-stabilization-488000 (external link)

Digital Lens Optimizer is not related to Stabilization and only works with RAW files. (until the 5DIV where it will work with JPEGs)
Changes to the image are made by DPP.
https://support.usa.ca​non.com …ent&id=ART16283​9&actp=RSS (external link)

Maybe this is an innovation direction canon is taking. While IBIS sounds great and likely works great, it increases the mechanical components in the system and points of failure. Software on the other hand, does not. I can be on board with eliminating mechanical failure points.




  
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Sep 06, 2018 07:42 |  #163

davesrose wrote in post #18701577 (external link)
I haven't seen anything about sensor DR: but if it's like the 5D4, it should be like 5D4. They have stated CLog video gives around 12 stops (that's not sensor DR). While it has the same crop factor for 4K video, at least it has a modern video codec. As for my impressions: seems like a good first step for Canon. It's no Sony killer, but it seems better then Nikon's first offering. People's impressions are that it has better ergonomics, and Nikon's major Z lenses aren't being released until later.

Yeah I don't think we'll see any DR tests until the RAW files are out in the wild or DPReview do their tests. I can't wait to see more about the body and new RF lenses.


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Sep 06, 2018 07:52 |  #164

Dlee13 wrote in post #18701596 (external link)
Yeah I don't think we'll see any DR tests until the RAW files are out in the wild or DPReview do their tests. I can't wait to see more about the body and new RF lenses.

Canon press release stated canon C-Log enabled 12 stops of dynamic range. Like that was a good thing or something. Heck my mavic 2 pro has 12.5 stops and it's just a little ol 1" sensor.

I hope canon is wrong on this one.


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Sep 06, 2018 07:56 |  #165

Talley wrote in post #18701601 (external link)
..and it's just a little ol 1" sensor.

Maybe here lies the problem. Panasonic and their tiny sensors are mopping up in the video department. I suppose Fuji as well. Sony is the only full frame with good video, and there are suggestions of heat issues. Maybe Canikon is trying to avoid heat issues, while Sony sort of overlooks them.

RED video cameras don't even have full frame sensors.

Ya, maybe I side-swiped the topic point a bit, but I'm just trying to reason this out.




  
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