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EOS-R - It's out. Thoughts?

 
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Sep 10, 2018 09:59 |  #541

What the heck will a lower class of mirrorless FF introduce to the market?

- Probably a lower resolution sensor
- Cannot really do anything about lowering the burst, it is pretty low now
- No tilt or touch screen, or both?
- Single slot (wait, already there on the EOS R)
- No 4K video?
- 1/4000th shutter?
- 1/160th flash sync?


I am a bit confused because if they take anything away from the EOS-R to lower its capability to provide a lower price, I don't see that many would want it, but I guess time will tell.


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Sep 10, 2018 10:00 |  #542

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18704770 (external link)
What the heck will a lower class of mirrorless FF introduce to the market?

- Probably a lower resolution sensor
- Cannot really do anything about lowering the burst, it is pretty low now
- No tilt or touch screen, or both?
- Single slot (wait, already there on the EOS R)
- No 4K video?
- 1/4000th shutter?
- 1/160th flash sync?


I am a bit confused because if they take anything away from the EOS-R to lower its capability to provide a lower price, I don't see that many would want it, but I guess time will tell.

No slots ;)


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Sep 10, 2018 10:01 as a reply to  @ sploo's post |  #543

ha, 16gb on board, have to use the USB 3.1 cable to both charge it and get files off. No charger will be included as well (ala Sony).

To offer a lower end FF mirrorless, I suspect the price has to be around $1300-1500, but what would you even get with that? It certainly wouldn't be fun to shoot, I would think. Maybe purely manual focus body with IBIS...


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Sep 10, 2018 10:08 |  #544

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18704770 (external link)
What the heck will a lower class of mirrorless FF introduce to the market?

- Probably a lower resolution sensor
- Cannot really do anything about lowering the burst, it is pretty low now
- No tilt or touch screen, or both?
- Single slot (wait, already there on the EOS R)
- No 4K video?
- 1/4000th shutter?
- 1/160th flash sync?


I am a bit confused because if they take anything away from the EOS-R to lower its capability to provide a lower price, I don't see that many would want it, but I guess time will tell.


Up until now, we've assumed that the "two new" R bodies would both be "more" than the current one.. now we have a confirmed "less"??
Will it be a cropper with a "newly developed" 18MP?

sheesh! -?


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Sep 10, 2018 10:09 |  #545

EOS R II

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Sep 10, 2018 10:15 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #546

with only 1 disk slot? those dam floppies are always getting fried.




  
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Sep 10, 2018 10:15 |  #547

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18704779 (external link)
Up until now, we've assumed that the "two new" R bodies would both be "more" than the current one.. now we have a confirmed "less"??
Will it be a cropper with a "newly developed" 18MP?

sheesh! -?

That's what I was thinking. APS-C Rebel R?


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Sep 10, 2018 10:19 |  #548

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18704780 (external link)
EOS R II

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*LOL* Knowing Canon, they'd go for an old DD 3.5" floppy (720KB), rather than the HD (1.44MB) :p

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18704774 (external link)
ha, 16gb on board, have to use the USB 3.1 cable to both charge it and get files off. No charger will be included as well (ala Sony).

To be fair though, USB 3.1 should be able to transfer data faster than a CFast card, so tethered that would give unlimited shooting at high frame rates, yea ;-)a


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Sep 10, 2018 10:26 |  #549

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Not really. Someone above already has concerns using an adapter in a mixed system - 3 discreet items and only two hands. Not an experience I care to have at this price and investment.

isn't the basic adapter 99 bucks? you could just buy a few and not worry about changing.


or, I could see owning one cheap one, one with the control ring and one drop in filter. That would cover three lenses and provide additional features so couldn't be considered just a extra expense. I'm kind of excited about the drop in filter adapter. Pretty cool.


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Sep 10, 2018 10:57 |  #550

J. Polin just put out a video he made while in hawaii at canon event ..
He said it was confirmed that it IS the same sensor of the 5d4 with tweaks made


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Sep 10, 2018 11:02 |  #551

Personally I’d be more interested in an APS-C version. FF for me is a disadvantage.

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Sep 10, 2018 11:32 |  #552

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Personally I’d be more interested in an APS-C version. FF for me is a disadvantage.

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I think the only reason we are poking fun at the idea of an APS-C "R", is because Canon has had APS-C Mirrorless for years in the form of the M.


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Sep 10, 2018 11:41 |  #553

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I think the only reason we are poking fun at the idea of an APS-C "R", is because Canon has had APS-C Mirrorless for years in the form of the M.

Haha...so true. I forget about the M series.

I just watched the 22min Jared Polin video and he has never sounded so positive about Canon!

That being said, he's gonna wait 'til the shipping models have the promised FW updates to do a full review.


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Sep 10, 2018 11:42 |  #554

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18704831 (external link)
I think the only reason we are poking fun at the idea of an APS-C "R", is because Canon has had APS-C Mirrorless for years in the form of the M.

No offense taken. Not a fan of the M, and there’s a reason I now use a 7Dii, versus the T2i I bought when I first got back into photography 7 years ago.

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Sep 10, 2018 11:47 |  #555

Wow! So this R is the MIDDLE camera of the lineup? Since they're touting it's supreme IQ, I'm guessing it's their A7RIII competitor?

Sheesh... so we're going to get an even lower spec'd one. That's almost embarrassing compared to what's on the market already, and sounds like they're just basically going for a stripped down model to be the price leader (assuming it's still FF). If it's a cropper, EOS-M is officially dead, and the EOS-M lenses can't be used on the R-series. Seems like a silly move to alienate all of those people who have M's.

I call BS on that IBIS statement regarding cost, overheating and size since A) Sonys and Nikon Z have done it CHEAPER than the R in their own bodies, B) I've never heard of overheating issues due to IBIS. 4K, yes, but never IBIS. None of my 3 cameras with IBIS have ever overheated. C) size? The Sony is smaller than the Canon, and the Nikon is roughly the same size... so that's obviously false. Olympus puts IBIS in the OMD EM10's and those bodies have relatively large MFT sensors considering the body is the size of a small P&S camera.


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