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Sep 11, 2018 18:17 |  #691

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18705909 (external link)
Cards get corrupted quite a bit even today with today's tech. ;)

In all my years of shooting, I've never had a corrupted card. One corrupted image. That is all. But still, redundancy would be ideal. I tend to copy the images from my cards to a portable drive while I'm out on extended trips.




  
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Sep 11, 2018 18:21 |  #692

AS_Photo wrote in post #18705924 (external link)
In all my years of shooting, I've never had a corrupted card. One corrupted image. That is all. But still, redundancy would be ideal. I tend to copy the images from my cards to a portable drive while I'm out on extended trips.

You are pretty lucky then. I have tossed about 4 cards, mostly sandisk, one was a sony pro card. Either corrupted, or the plastic housing just falls apart preventing insertion of the card (or requires surgical extraction), or the card goes into a locked mode because the r/w tab breaks. The latter two issues won't cause lost images because either I couldn't get the card in, or I couldn't record to a card, but that does introduce some downtime as I go pull other cards from the card safe attached to my hardcase, usually not near me.


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Sep 11, 2018 18:25 |  #693

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18705926 (external link)
You are pretty lucky then. I have tossed about 4 cards, mostly sandisk, one was a sony pro card. Either corrupted, or the plastic housing just falls apart preventing insertion of the card (or requires surgical extraction), or the card goes into a locked mode because the r/w tab breaks. The latter two issues won't cause lost images because either I couldn't get the card in, or I couldn't record to a card, but that does introduce some downtime as I go pull other cards from the card safe attached to my hardcase, usually not near me.

I do tend to replace the cards every few years. They do have limited write cycles before they wear out. Too expensive to lose photos.




  
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Sep 11, 2018 18:41 |  #694

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18705926 (external link)
You are pretty lucky then. I have tossed about 4 cards, mostly sandisk, one was a sony pro card. Either corrupted, or the plastic housing just falls apart preventing insertion of the card (or requires surgical extraction), or the card goes into a locked mode because the r/w tab breaks. The latter two issues won't cause lost images because either I couldn't get the card in, or I couldn't record to a card, but that does introduce some downtime as I go pull other cards from the card safe attached to my hardcase, usually not near me.

Your shoot count is probably 10-15x more than the average joe so perhaps that should take into account.


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Sep 11, 2018 18:42 |  #695

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18705790 (external link)
I don't think this is priced either for the casual shooter to want to move to FF from crop or other FF either. So where this camera really sits seems to be a bit confused at this point.

I think the point of this camera isn't to be a "Sony killer" or anything like that. This is only Canon's first entry into the high-end mirrorless product space. IMO, positioning it here gets the attention of advanced amateurs and pros, people who like to scrutinize specs. Not for the purpose of getting lots of sales, but to get people looking at it and talking about it (for 47 pages and growing).

I consider myself to be in the "enthusiast" camp, so I usually ignore product announcements in the $3000+ range. But a $2300 body like this, while not something I would buy in its current form, looks interesting enough to have me posting about it and thinking that I might eventually get something like this... *if* they change a few things.

I think that's really the point of the EOS R, to put something out there and get feedback from this community. I'm willing to bet people from Canon are following these discussions, and the discussions on FM and the comments on YT. So keep talking about the changes you want to see. There will be more bodies in the future.

I see the EOS R like the EOS 650: A competent--albeit limited--mid-range first entry in what will (hopefully) become a very successful product line.

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Sep 11, 2018 19:13 |  #696

The Sony killers will come at the next release

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Sep 11, 2018 19:24 |  #697

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The Sony killers will come at the next release

Guaranteed

But what is next for Sony? Do they have something up their sleeve that Sony users want/need?


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Sep 11, 2018 19:25 |  #698

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18705926 (external link)
You are pretty lucky then. I have tossed about 4 cards, mostly sandisk, one was a sony pro card. Either corrupted, or the plastic housing just falls apart preventing insertion of the card (or requires surgical extraction), or the card goes into a locked mode because the r/w tab breaks. The latter two issues won't cause lost images because either I couldn't get the card in, or I couldn't record to a card, but that does introduce some downtime as I go pull other cards from the card safe attached to my hardcase, usually not near me.

do you keep your cards a long time?

I typically retire cards regularly and buy 2-4 a year. I do a ton of tethered shooting and my in the field shooting is not demanding at all, so I get to buy middle of the road cards, so it's pretty easy to just chuck them after a year or so.


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Sep 11, 2018 19:25 |  #699

umphotography wrote in post #18705965 (external link)
The Sony killers will come at the next release

Guaranteed

What do we get back when the guaranteed runs out? Like... is this a money back type kind of thing? :)

I'll be sure to bookmark this post for future use :P


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Sep 11, 2018 19:39 |  #700

"Dslr video shooter" put out a video on this camera.
He has a 6 week loaner just like everyone else that attended canons hawaii event.

His answer to "who is this camera for?" , i thought was interesting

He says they made this camera for Themselves (canon).
Giving it just enough to make people considering going to sony stay,.. and hope for more .. and possibly bring back some that left canon but never wanted to leave .

He had a lot of positive thoughts on the camera

Ill he honest.. im becoming more and more curious about this camera.
But i admit , my curiosity is easily enticed;-)a (i already own pana/sony/fuji)

Yes it lacks some things ..
A mirrorless with an e shutter that only does on frame per press?.. wtf canon?

Well this certainly wouldnt be my main.. but as casual/fun/travel camera ?..


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Sep 11, 2018 19:48 |  #701

rantercsr wrote in post #18705982 (external link)
"Dslr video shooter" put out a video on this camera.
He has a 6 week loaner just like everyone else that attended canons hawaii event.

His answer to "who is this camera for?" , i thought was interesting

He says they made this camera for Themselves (canon).
Giving it just enough to make people considering going to sony stay,.. and hope for more .. and possibly bring back some that left canon but never wanted to leave .

He had a lot of positive thoughts on the camera

Ill he honest.. im becoming more and more curious about this camera.
But i admit , my curiosity is easily enticed;-)a (i already own pana/sony/fuji)

Yes it lacks some things ..
A mirrorless with an e shutter that only does on frame per press?.. wtf canon?

Well this certainly wouldnt be my main.. but as casual/fun/travel camera ?..

that GAS must be fed :twisted:

I'de love to try it myself, and I'm sure a few fellow canon shooters will get one, at least I hope they do.


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Sep 11, 2018 19:52 |  #702

Talley wrote in post #18705971 (external link)
What do we get back when the guaranteed runs out? Like... is this a money back type kind of thing? :)

I'll be sure to bookmark this post for future use :P

We all know Sony will have a A7r4 and A9mk2 sooner than later. I wonder what they'll be adding to their future camera bodies. Regardless Sony knows "Sony" shooters will scoop them up like candy. Also non Sony shooters will jump on the bandwagon (me included).

I'm torn because I own a bag of Canon glass. Weight savings isn't the biggest deal for me now. It's the versatility of having EF glass that I can adapt to a Canon body LOL!!

Reading this thread has peaked my interest but I know deep down inside it will take Canon 2-3 revisions to catch up to even the Sony A7iii I already own. RF glass is in it's infancy so I do not think Canon can produce RF glass fast enough to switch previous Canon users that have jumped to Sony.

Let us see how real world buyers say about the EOS R ;)


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Sep 11, 2018 20:16 |  #703

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I just think if Canon had released this and then also advertised their roadmap for this new model line, it would be better.

On the other hand, if they did that, they could find that less people buy the R because they can see a better option a little further down the line.


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Sep 11, 2018 20:51 |  #704

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On the other hand, if they did that, they could find that less people buy the R because they can see a better option a little further down the line.

Well, a few days later, in an interview with Canon, they did exactly that. They stated that there would be one lower and one higher than the EOS-R. I keep seeing folks thinking that there will be 2 higher models, but that isn't what seemed to be put out there by the Canon exec.


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Sep 11, 2018 20:53 |  #705

joeseph wrote in post #18706005 (external link)
On the other hand, if they did that, they could find that less people buy the R because they can see a better option a little further down the line.

when you're the top of the hill, you dont need no roadmap, keep people guessing, change plans if needed.

Nikon is struggling, so they need to stop the bleeding.


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