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Flashpoint Xplor 600 PRO Misfires

 
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Sep 17, 2018 14:00 as a reply to  @ post 18709704 |  #16

They were pretty fresh; had only used them for a couple hundred triggers last week.

And to be honest, I don’t trigger speedlights very often; if I’m using them, they are usually on-camera. That will change soon though! Have a few larger events in front of me.


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Sep 17, 2018 14:05 |  #17

GESWhoPhoto wrote in post #18709945 (external link)
They were pretty fresh; had only used them for a couple hundred triggers last week.

And to be honest, I don’t trigger speedlights very often; if I’m using them, they are usually on-camera. That will change soon though! Have a few largee events in front of me.

But your speedlights will work in the same setup where triggering/synching the strobe failed?


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Sep 18, 2018 00:46 |  #18

GESWhoPhoto wrote in post #18709672 (external link)
3. Recycling: I am ashamed to say I was not using the recycle beep. Once I discovered the issue, I was mindful to wait a second or two between shots, but as I was using TTL, maybe there WERE some full-power pops that didn't get a chance to reload?

It's a possibility.

4. Changing Channels: I was not! Is that a common thing? I also was shooting right by the water, and I hear water can have interference with the waves?

I don't think water will cause as much of an issue as wi-fi coverage. :) And if you were outside, away from wi-fi routers or high power lines, then radio interference is unlikely to be an issue. But it never hurts to try using another channel.

5. Distance: I was within a couple of feet of the Xplor 600 PRO; I know the flash was popping off, because I could see it in my periphery while looking down the viewfinder, but it just didn't seem to be syncing up right.

6. C.Fn DIST: 0-30 meters! Just checked.  :p

Okay, then "too close" shouldn't be an issue. :)


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Sep 18, 2018 14:41 |  #19

FWIW I've just edited two shoots which were both shot with two XplorPros, the R2Pro trigger, a Nikon D810. I combed the files to see what proportion of images were dark due to misfires. Here's the numbers:

Shoot 1 - personal work in studio:

Look 1 - 0 for 349
Look 2 - 1 for 584
Look 3 - 6 for 598 frames

Total 7 of 1531: .0045% // 99.9955% - that's a pretty good number ;) I think the uptick toward the end was just prior to having to swap in a fresh battery.

Next shoot was a celeb portrait session:

Look 1 - 0 for 389
Look 2 - 2 for 223
Look 3 - 0 for 101
Look 4 - 0 for 119

By look 4 I beat the recycle on the fill light a few times, for a slightly underpowered fill, but it's nothing a little massaging in post can't fix.

I think these numbers feel average for me in my experiences working with the Pros, so it's strange to me you're seeing such terrible consistency. I work usually with the lights around 1/4 to 1/8 power, and often even lower. Not sure if you're at full or half, but... that could be a contributing factor (you may have already said but I'd have to reread the thread to see...)

Please keep us updated with your efforts and hopefully solution.


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Sep 18, 2018 14:52 |  #20

I had similar issues as you and thought one of the 600 pro lights was acting up. It turned out to be an XPro-N trigger. I swapped it out with my backup XPro-N and no more misfires.




  
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Sep 18, 2018 15:49 |  #21

Yeah. Similarly when I see something acting up I swap batteries in the trigger, or just reseat it and it gets back in line. I've had it happen 3 or 4 times in about 20-30 shoots.

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I had similar issues as you and thought one of the 600 pro lights was acting up. It turned out to be an XPro-N trigger. I swapped it out with my backup XPro-N and no more misfires.


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Sep 21, 2018 00:48 |  #22

soeren wrote in post #18709704 (external link)
Obvious question 2.0 fresh batteries in trigger?
Re speedlights, will it happen with them too?

:-)

First question that came to mind when reading the first few replies.

Could be the trigger. I use Phottix Odin and keep doubles of everything just in case. No failure yet though.


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Nov 06, 2018 19:07 |  #23

HUGE UPDATE!

It turns out Godox released the V1.6 XPro-N upgrade a little over a week ago!

I ran a test on V1.5 between my D750 and D850 using the same XPro-N trigger and my Xplor 600 PRO strobe; here are my results:

D750

0/10 misfire 1/256
0/10 misfire 1/128
0/10 misfire 1/64
2/10 misfire 1/32
0/10 misfire 1/32 slowed between shots
1/10 misfire 1/16
1/10 misfire 1/16 slowed between shots - Xplor 600 display said 1/16 +0.3 (wrong power)
0/10 misfire 1/8
1/10 misfire 1/4
2/10 misfire 1/2
0/10 misfire 1/1

D850

0/10 misfire 1/256
1/10 misfire 1/128
1/10 misfire 1/64
1/10 misfire 1/32
0/10 misfire 1/16
0/10 misfire 1/8
0/10 misfire 1/4
0/10 misfire 1/2
0/10 misfire 1/1

After I upgraded to version 1.6, I am happy to report I had ZERO misfires across both camera bodies, with the same number of test points and at the same powers! I am hoping this fixed my issues for good!


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