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Oct 16, 2018 13:49 as a reply to  @ post 18730228 |  #46

It appears that is a donation site. Not sure yet but I think you have to donate to use more of it.


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Oct 16, 2018 14:57 |  #47

No, it's free, although donations are accepted so they can continue the work. www.archive.org (external link) has archived a buttload of data over the years and showed a ton of foresight in getting it up and going in the early days of the internet.

Go here:

https://archive.org/we​b/ (external link)

And enter a full URL in the box with "Browse History" as the submit button. For instance:

www.photography-on-the.net

Click on a year and the calendar will show the dates of archive activity. Click on a date and then on the link that pops up.

First snapshot:

https://web.archive.or​g …hotography-on-the.net:80/ (external link)

The more popular the site the more likely everything will be archived, but there are no guarantees. It's been years since I had the time to fart around on the archive, but if you want you can really head down the proverbial rabbit hole. Start at the the very first link at the top of this post to understand the volume of data we're talking about here.

https://en.m.wikipedia​.org/wiki/Internet_Arc​hive (external link)


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Oct 16, 2018 14:58 |  #48

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Wayback Machine has a copy.

https://web.archive.or​g …ticles/2014/spo​t_AF.shtml (external link)

Wayback Machine is freakin' awesome.


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It appears that is a donation site. Not sure yet but I think you have to donate to use more of it.

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Digital Paradise, I don't know how or where you got that idea.

I got on there and jumped from one article to another to another to another. . Any article I clicked on, it went right to the full length version and never asked for any freakin' donation.

If your experience was different from mine, then maybe your browser is screwed up or something.


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"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
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Oct 16, 2018 15:20 |  #49

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I shoulda realized this could happen. Canon Europe had a great flash video explaining the difference between TTL and TTL II. Lost that one about 2 years ago and I really miss it.

I hope the articles can one day be found again.

are you asking about Canon film camera TTL vs. digital (Canon) nTTL-II?


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Oct 16, 2018 15:24 |  #50

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are you asking about Canon film camera TTL vs. digital (Canon) nTTL-II?

I'm OK. I understand it. I just liked to have the video as a reference in case.


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Oct 16, 2018 15:25 |  #51

Thanks everyone. I'll invest some time at that site.


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Oct 16, 2018 15:27 |  #52

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Thanks everyone. I'll invest some time at that site.

i was just looking at Yahoo in 1996 (external link)

and it's all your fault ! ! !


closing browser now, telling myself i must make dinner.

no more internet archive.

for today.


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Oct 16, 2018 16:30 |  #53

Kidnap Rudy Winston. Probably the best way to archive knowledge about Canon stuff.

And no, TeamSpeed, when you provide additional information for free to your customers, it's up to you for how long you provide that information, when you select to edit or remove it and when you publish. It's not up to the audience, no matter how much you'd like it to be.


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Kidnap Rudy Winston. Probably the best way to archive knowledge about Canon stuff.

And no, TeamSpeed, when you provide additional information for free to your customers, it's up to you for how long you provide that information, when you select to edit or remove it and when you publish. It's not up to the audience, no matter how much you'd like it to be.

Well, that isn't the case here. All major articles are missing, they are redesigning and it will take some time to reindex documents and get search tools, etc updated. Also just because some company "can" do that, it isn't common practice and it is poor service. In the old days of the internet this was the way things were done, but not much any more. Document repositories and tools are quite cheap and easy to maintain. We store well over 10M documents in our system dating back a decade, for access by vendors and customers. Easy peasy... ;)

Just depends on what your priorities as a service provider or manufacturer are as to how you manage your industry and customer resources.


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Oct 16, 2018 18:53 |  #55

apersson850 wrote in post #18730320 (external link)
Kidnap Rudy Winston. Probably the best way to archive knowledge about Canon stuff.

And no, TeamSpeed, when you provide additional information for free to your customers, it's up to you for how long you provide that information, when you select to edit or remove it and when you publish. It's not up to the audience, no matter how much you'd like it to be.

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Oct 16, 2018 18:57 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #56

1) what is the next EOS-R camera?
2) when is Canon planning on buying Nikon and develop tech that leaves Sony behind?

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Oct 16, 2018 19:25 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #57

I agree that something like these articles disappearing really should not happen, from either a customer service or technical standpoint. Certainly there is a database of resources that is used to catalog everything they have posted, and each resource should have a unique id. If things were done right in the past, bringing that forward should be relatively easy when considering the payoff.

The Archive catalogs sites (and subdomains) that change more often, well, more often. Sites that rarely change get less attention. The "learn" subdomain has not been getting crawled recently. If I remember from this afternoon, the last one was in August, and the couple of months before we're seeing fewer crawls too.


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Oct 17, 2018 05:16 |  #58

I'm not saying they can't store everything, I'm saying that you can't expect them to do that.


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Oct 17, 2018 08:11 |  #59

God isn't that wayback machine embarrassing, to think that stuff I did back in like 2001 is still accessible now. What's worse mine was actually thought good for that industry at that time. No you are not getting a link!

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Oct 17, 2018 11:28 |  #60

Per an instructor at Canon just today...

I can look later and see, but the CDLC team just moved their site to a new server I believe. I’m not on that team, but the articles are still there, just maybe a different link?

It’s still the main site of - learn.usa.canon.com

I gave him the most recent example of what is missing.


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