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Canon 135mm F/2L vs 85mm F/1.4L IS for toddler photos

 
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Aug 30, 2018 08:26 |  #16

Here's some DOF and bokeh comparisons, food for thought.

85mm F1.8 on a full frame with our daughter.

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135 F2L on a full frame with the girls.

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50mm F1.2 on APS-C with the daughter.

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Now honestly, had I not pointed out which was the 135L, some folk may not even be able to distinguish it. The 135L doesn't automatically make things magical. You have to have the right background matter (sun and leaves are really not good honestly), a lot more background distance, and more working distance. But my point was to show that these 135L photos are not special. The lens doesn't make it anymore special than another fast telephoto. They all crush depth of field. My point is just that there's more to the photo than having the dreamy background lens, like the 135L. Having used all kinds of fast long glass, personal preference, I let the 135L go. I let all the long lenses go. I'd rather shoot a short, really fast piece of glass, and be 6~7 feet away for a full body. But, again, that's personal preference. I can use it everywhere, rather than only outside with tons of distance to work with.

But again, I can't stress enough, the 135L doesn't automatically make magic. My photos are just snaps and they're really not much different from an 85mm F1.8 above.

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Aug 31, 2018 02:37 |  #17

MatthewK wrote in post #18695614 (external link)
We just had a family photo shoot (wife won it in a raffle), and the photog was shooting Canon 6DII w/ the 35 f/1.4L II... wow, what a lens, makes me want the 35 f/1.4L II now. And having been shooting with the Fuji x100 a lot, I'm liking the 35mm FOV even more. Yeah, for indoor shots I think that a 35mm is a good focal length to be at.

In regards to the 135L: I think every photographer should own this lens at least once :) The kinds of shots you are able to get with it belie the fact that it's one of the most affordable L lenses. OP, I think you're making the right move in obtaining one.

I prefer the 35mm f/1,4L I. Although there are cons but I find the images rendered has a kind of 3D 'magical pop'
 :p

Meanwhile if the bank permits, I would want to get the 135L.... Meanwhile, I shall cover this length with a Zoom :p


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Sep 02, 2018 23:23 |  #18

Well, the mail man just delivered a shiny new 135 f/2L to the door step earlier. Very excited to play around with it!

We have a trip to the beach next week, so I'm going to use that time too really put it through the paces. Hopefully I enjoy it, but I can return it if the focal length doesn't seem to fit.


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Sep 03, 2018 04:04 |  #19

do share your experiences!~


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Sep 03, 2018 08:46 as a reply to  @ GoHokiesGo's post |  #20

Based on what I've heard/read about the lens you'll like it. I'd love to get it but I get paid to do sports not portraits, and with limited $$$ can only get so much.

Enjoy!! Looking forward to seeing some images.




  
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Sep 04, 2018 11:56 as a reply to  @ post 18694480 |  #21

I have to agree with MalVeauX's post. I have 5 kids, and primarily use the 135L and 35LII. I've owned the 85 Art, and as much as I LOVE my 135, I find the 85 much more versatile for outdoor family portrait work, especially with younger children - including my own. It does require a lot of working distance, IMO, and that can often be challenging with little ones. I really prefer to use my 135 for older children and adults. I recently sold my 85 Art and now I am seriously missing the focal length.


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Sep 04, 2018 13:46 |  #22

An 85mm is certainly still on my list as next up! I just knew that I'd always be wondering about the 135L until trying it. I think it's going to be a good focal length for outdoors and in our open basement, and, as many have mentioned, for kids sports in the future.

I didn't get to shoot much at all this weekend, but playing around for a few mins in the house I definitely noticed that focusing was very quick


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Sep 28, 2018 14:25 |  #23

I have both lenses and prefer the 85 for shooting my grandkids. The IS helps when I'm panning following the subjects. Plus I like the working space from the subjects both indoors and out.


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Sep 28, 2018 17:48 |  #24

About 70 images from the end of this album (external link) (at the time of posting this entry), there are som images taken with the EF 85 mm f/1,4L IS USM. You can find them by clicking on the (i) button ond look for f/1.4 and 85 mm in the info pane.
They were taken in very bad conditions, with rain, thick canopy and thus difficult light. The camera used with the 85 mm was the 1DX Mark II.
I recently acquired the 85 mm f/1.4, so I've not been able to do more than this single event in tough conditions. But I've already realized that I now have an EF 85 mm f/1.8 USM I can sell...


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Oct 22, 2018 12:53 |  #25

Sigma 105 F1.4 could have been a good compromise between 85 and 135.




  
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Oct 23, 2018 23:03 |  #26

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18695203 (external link)
Back in my Canon FF days I'd love to try to shoot with that 135L as much as I could even the kids at home, it's an amazing lens. I never warmed to the 85/1.8 for some reason but it is a nice lens and great for the price.

Depends on what and how you want to shoot, as Martin said. I like getting in a little closer and showing a bit more so the 35mm works well for me there, but I still loved shooting with the 135 when I could.

I owned the 85mm 1.8 and never warmed to it either. I love my 85mm 1.2 and will probably never get the 1.8 again.

In context of this thread, I'm trying to imagine how the 50mm 1.2 would work for the OP

135mm is one of my faves, but tight even on FF, and I'd rarely use one for children.


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Oct 28, 2018 22:33 |  #27

It's been awhile since I replied in the thread, but I'm definitely enjoying the lens after a few weeks with it.
It's incredibly tack sharp and the background separation is pretty awesome. The size/weight are reasonable given the focal length. I find it's pretty easy to bump up ISO to keep shutter speeds high enough, but still in plenty usable ranges. My wife has really loved the photos of her and the baby with it thus far, so that's always a plus with the lens.

Many of you were right regarding the long working length. I still find myself framing a shot, then always taking another 5-10 steps back to get the perspective I wanted. I love the images from it, but it certainly takes some stubborn dedication to use it for a broad range of images. At the end of the day though, I do think that it's a keeper lens for me - the image quality is fantastic, and it's great for family portraiture; it also adds a nice wide aperture alternative to the 70-200f4L.

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Oct 31, 2018 05:16 |  #28

Gorgeous shot, just a really beautiful capture all around. As you've perfectly demonstrated, if one has the space to employ it, the 135L can't be beat.


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Jun 21, 2019 16:32 |  #29

The 135, while a lovely lens, is often just too long, and it lacks IS.

The 85 f/1.4L IS is too heavy, but damn it is a nice lens. I was unable to return mine, as much as I wanted to. It's so good.

The 135 is good, too, but really, needs IS.




  
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Jun 21, 2019 16:35 |  #30

MalVeauX wrote in post #18696434 (external link)
Here's some DOF and bokeh comparisons, food for thought.

85mm F1.8 on a full frame with our daughter.

QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/vCRe​5X  (external link) IMG_4388 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/vzaA​2T  (external link) IMG_4640 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

135 F2L on a full frame with the girls.

QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GAWA​WF  (external link) IMG_9344 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/YBbL​LY  (external link) IMG_8458 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

50mm F1.2 on APS-C with the daughter.

https://flic.kr/p/Js2C​iW (external link)DSCF8821 copy (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/23Mv​HgE (external link)DSCF8698 copy (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

Now honestly, had I not pointed out which was the 135L, some folk may not even be able to distinguish it. The 135L doesn't automatically make things magical. You have to have the right background matter (sun and leaves are really not good honestly), a lot more background distance, and more working distance. But my point was to show that these 135L photos are not special. The lens doesn't make it anymore special than another fast telephoto. They all crush depth of field. My point is just that there's more to the photo than having the dreamy background lens, like the 135L. Having used all kinds of fast long glass, personal preference, I let the 135L go. I let all the long lenses go. I'd rather shoot a short, really fast piece of glass, and be 6~7 feet away for a full body. But, again, that's personal preference. I can use it everywhere, rather than only outside with tons of distance to work with.

But again, I can't stress enough, the 135L doesn't automatically make magic. My photos are just snaps and they're really not much different from an 85mm F1.8 above.

Very best,

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