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Nov 01, 2018 09:37 |  #5941

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Have another question about settings on mk4:
Better to use a Highlight Priority or just underexpose frame by 1/3 or 2/3 steps for highlights saving ?
on my mk2 I'm always shoots with underexpose by 1/3 but now, maybe, this rule not so usable ?

Personally, I turn on the 'blinkies' and know when they start to appear I'd better stop or turn exposure down a smidge.

Canon raw you can recover some 'blinkies' just fine, if you didn't over do it, after years of shooting, its a 'feel' now for me when I can over expose but still recover. My understanding that other cameras (like Nikon) you can't over expose and pull back, they've set the exposure parameters slightly different, so over IS over, no wiggle room. Not bad, just different, so have to know your camera.


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Nov 01, 2018 10:25 |  #5942

ksbal wrote in post #18741421 (external link)
Personally, I turn on the 'blinkies' and know when they start to appear I'd better stop or turn exposure down a smidge.

Canon raw you can recover some 'blinkies' just fine, if you didn't over do it, after years of shooting, its a 'feel' now for me when I can over expose but still recover. My understanding that other cameras (like Nikon) you can't over expose and pull back, they've set the exposure parameters slightly different, so over IS over, no wiggle room. Not bad, just different, so have to know your camera.

The clipping warning on the LCD is based on converted 8 bit Jpeg so those areas may not be clipped in the RAW file. If you are shooting RAW you don't have to be too afraid of that warning. There is actually quite a bit of wiggle room. As you say quite accurately it all becomes second nature over time.


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Nov 01, 2018 10:58 |  #5943

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Nov 01, 2018 11:51 |  #5944

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Nov 01, 2018 13:29 |  #5945

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Nov 01, 2018 15:29 |  #5946

This is actually shot from underneath a 2 lane highway, looking up, at the point where the overpasses cross the Shubenacadie River in Nova Scotia, Canada. I stacked the sky images in Sequator to improve the noise, but it introduces some artifacts which I didn't bother fixing.

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Nov 01, 2018 22:31 |  #5947

nqjudo wrote in post #18741440 (external link)
The clipping warning on the LCD is based on converted 8 bit Jpeg so those areas may not be clipped in the RAW file. If you are shooting RAW you don't have to be too afraid of that warning. There is actually quite a bit of wiggle room. As you say quite accurately it all becomes second nature over time.

I realized if I followed the "blinkies" and dial down the exposure, it kind of underexposed when transferred into computer. Hopefully soon I learn the 'second nature' over time.  :p


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Nov 01, 2018 23:52 |  #5948

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I realized if I followed the "blinkies" and dial down the exposure, it kind of underexposed when transferred into computer. Hopefully soon I learn the 'second nature' over time.  :p

Geez. A great eye and you want perfect exposure too. You can't have it all, you know ;)


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Nov 02, 2018 00:45 |  #5949

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I realized if I followed the "blinkies" and dial down the exposure, it kind of underexposed when transferred into computer. Hopefully soon I learn the 'second nature' over time.  :p

Hi Ah-keong, what nqjudo said about the clipping warning is correct but to complicate the issue further, the clipping warning (blinkies) and histogram on the LCD depend on the picture style setting of your camera. To get the closest to true clipping readouts, change the picture style to Neutral and turn saturation and contrast right down (do this in the menus). To get a really good comparison between your camera's blinkies and true raw clipping, get FastRawViewer or RawDigger and open the raws up in either of those programs. Using those programs you can see exactly how close your raws are to clipping, regardless of the camera or its settings. And despite what others on this forum may tell you, exposure bracketing whenever possible is highly beneficial, allowing you to choose the best exposure for each image later, when you are comfortably at your computer.


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Nov 02, 2018 00:51 |  #5950

nqjudo wrote in post #18741988 (external link)
Geez. A great eye and you want perfect exposure too. You can't have it all, you know ;)

haha, I am greedy and want both !~  :p


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Nov 02, 2018 00:56 |  #5951

Pippan wrote in post #18742006 (external link)
Hi Ah-keong, what nqjudo said about the clipping warning is correct but to complicate the issue further, the clipping warning (blinkies) and histogram on the LCD depend on the picture style setting of your camera. To get the closest to true clipping readouts, change the picture style to Neutral and turn saturation and contrast right down (do this in the menus). To get a really good comparison between your camera's blinkies and true raw clipping, get FastRawViewer or RawDigger and open the raws up in either of those programs. Using those programs you can see exactly how close your raws are to clipping, regardless of the camera or its settings. And despite what others on this forum may tell you, exposure bracketing whenever possible is highly beneficial, allowing you to choose the best exposure for each image later, when you are comfortably at your computer.

Oh, Learn something new today.... Usually I would set to Faithful (default mode) or Monochrome(when I am in training mode).
I realize that for the same settings, the monochrome would have more 'blinkies'.

Maybe I should follow your advice and do exposure bracketing whenever possible.  :p


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Nov 02, 2018 10:19 |  #5952

Pippan wrote in post #18742006 (external link)
Hi Ah-keong, what nqjudo said about the clipping warning is correct but to complicate the issue further, the clipping warning (blinkies) and histogram on the LCD depend on the picture style setting of your camera. To get the closest to true clipping readouts, change the picture style to Neutral and turn saturation and contrast right down (do this in the menus). To get a really good comparison between your camera's blinkies and true raw clipping, get FastRawViewer or RawDigger and open the raws up in either of those programs. Using those programs you can see exactly how close your raws are to clipping, regardless of the camera or its settings. And despite what others on this forum may tell you, exposure bracketing whenever possible is highly beneficial, allowing you to choose the best exposure for each image later, when you are comfortably at your computer.

Thats what I do the most, exposure bracketing for landscape work

For wildlife, as its usually single continuous I take a test shot to see if my exposure is correct for the light, and adjust from there.

Never really played with picture style, but I might give it a try according to recommendations "change the picture style to Neutral and turn saturation and contrast right down". I presumed you tested this in FastRawViewer or RawDigger and find this to be the best ???


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Nov 02, 2018 16:05 |  #5953

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Thats what I do the most, exposure bracketing for landscape work

For wildlife, as its usually single continuous I take a test shot to see if my exposure is correct for the light, and adjust from there.

Never really played with picture style, but I might give it a try according to recommendations "change the picture style to Neutral and turn saturation and contrast right down". I presumed you tested this in FastRawViewer or RawDigger and find this to be the best ???

Yes I did, also shooting in AdobeRGB makes it a bit closer. The camera blinkies still show slightly before raw clipping but it's quite close.


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Nov 03, 2018 02:14 |  #5954

Pippan wrote in post #18742006 (external link)
Hi Ah-keong, what nqjudo said about the clipping warning is correct but to complicate the issue further, the clipping warning (blinkies) and histogram on the LCD depend on the picture style setting of your camera. To get the closest to true clipping readouts, change the picture style to Neutral and turn saturation and contrast right down (do this in the menus). To get a really good comparison between your camera's blinkies and true raw clipping, get FastRawViewer or RawDigger and open the raws up in either of those programs. Using those programs you can see exactly how close your raws are to clipping, regardless of the camera or its settings. And despite what others on this forum may tell you, exposure bracketing whenever possible is highly beneficial, allowing you to choose the best exposure for each image later, when you are comfortably at your computer.

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