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Nov 02, 2018 21:09 |  #31

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Here is the test that I did. See how the speedlight even with the double diffusion barely fills the face of the 48 inch octa? That's why I recommended 24-48 inch modifier if using speedlights.

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Nov 02, 2018 22:21 |  #32

Yes, I see what you mean. Thanks.




  
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Nov 03, 2018 09:17 |  #33

firme wrote in post #18741433 (external link)
Dmward, is there a reason why some people would get a set up that you mentioned if you say probably not the best option (first sentence)? What would be a modifier that would fit for the application?

You mentioned speedlights being mounted forward, not bouncing correct. Would this be applied the same to strobes or it wouldn't as it is a bigger light source compared to the speedlight?

I can't speak to other people's motivation for buying one modifier over another. I can only speak to my own experience.

The big difference between a speedlite and a strobe (monolight) is the flash tube position. A speedlite flash tube in behind a fresnel lens inside a zooming reflector. The design is intended to create a cone of light that covers the lens field of view when the flash tube is pointed at the subject. That means that the light is focused from the tube in a way that minimizes the likelihood that it will be reflected off the sides of the modifier back toward the front diffusion panel. Monolight tubes generally protrude into the modifier without a reflector. This means that the light from the tube is hitting the modifier reflective surfaces and bouncing around before reaching the modifier front panel. Placing a deflector plate between the tube and the front of the modifier blocks light from directly reaching the front diffusion panel eliminating the tendency for a hot spot.

Placing a speedlite facing the back of an Apollo type modifier means that all the light generated by the flash tube will bounce around inside the modifier which greatly improves the smoothness of light across the front diffusion panel.


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Nov 03, 2018 13:22 as a reply to  @ dmward's post |  #34

For me its about portability. A pair of deep reflective umbrellas are compact and light and still offers large surfaces and versatility. With a couple of barebulbs (right now an ad200 and an ad360) and a speedlight (or 2) the limiting factor is me not my gear


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Nov 04, 2018 10:37 |  #35

Thanks guys.




  
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Nov 04, 2018 21:07 |  #36

What soft box is good then if trying to stay away from cheaper soft boxes. I'm interested in a 24x36 or similar.

Saw this one but I didn't find in the description about having a second diffuser:
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …100cm_softbox_b​owens.html (external link)

This one does seem to have the second diffuser:
https://www.adorama.co​m/gosbnb9090.html (external link)

At the price, I guess these are still on the cheap side.




  
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Nov 04, 2018 23:24 |  #37

If you want that extra control factor in a grid


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Nov 05, 2018 09:42 as a reply to  @ firme's post |  #38

Those are both examples of cheap, I'd suggest looking at something by Chimera, Elinchrom or Profoto if you want quality. I bought inexpensive early in my career and ended up spending more later. I'd figure out lighting kit first and then add modifiers for the desired effect.


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Nov 05, 2018 11:11 |  #39

The thing that speaks for buying cheap is when finding out what stuff does and doesnt do. There is no need for every modifier in every catalogue so grinding your teeth in something less extensive and then buying the good stuff when you have figured out your needs is not that bad.


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Nov 05, 2018 16:07 |  #40

Well, unfortunately don't have the funds to go that route on those higher end soft boxes, plus did see I would have to get the rings separate. Thank you for the suggestions. Guess will have to go the cheaper route for now and see which one I will end up getting.




  
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Nov 13, 2018 12:57 |  #41

just noticed this for sale:

http://www.cheetahstan​d.com/product-p/q24p-hs.htm (external link)

great price on this softbox with grid and two layers of diffusion, and it includes a flash bracket, quality product and great support from Ed at Cheetah Stand.


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Nov 13, 2018 13:21 |  #42

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18750371 (external link)
just noticed this for sale:

http://www.cheetahstan​d.com/product-p/q24p-hs.htm (external link)

great price on this softbox with grid and two layers of diffusion, and it includes a flash bracket, quality product and great support from Ed at Cheetah Stand.

I’ve got a few Cheetahstand modifiers. They are very good. Well made. Give them a look.


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Nov 14, 2018 10:07 |  #43

Thanks for the link. Will take a look at it.




  
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Nov 14, 2018 18:40 |  #44

For speedlite, smaller use QBox from Cheetah stand. The brackets are kind of crappy. Bigger size look at Wesctott Apollo. They are umbrella style. 50" is only $100. Softliter is another option but flimsy. Mine died on the first shoot.


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Nov 15, 2018 08:50 |  #45

Appreciate the honesty, which is why I come here. This kind of replies sure as heck won't get from BH or Adorama or probably other stores.




  
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