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Nov 06, 2018 08:52 |  #1

Back story. I was set to do a shoot for a kids soccer team (team pic and individual pics) and it was there last game but I was sick so I sent my sister who normally does a good job.
She nailed the individual pictures but by the time everyone was there for the group picture the only place left for the group shot was not ideal.. hard lighting from the side.
She tried to fill in the shadows with a flash but it still isnt what I was wanting.

I have 2 pics one with and one without the coaches

I have played with them in photoshop but I do not know how to make these look the best

Can someone help me please?

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Nov 06, 2018 10:36 |  #2

Cute kids.

No edit from me but a (perhaps useful) suggestion.

Working with the spot adjustment brush in ACR on two of the most challenging faces it was possible to work individually with areas of each face and get good results, That take a while for every face in both shots.

Beyond matching overall exposure in areas of each face I had to balance highlights/shadows and adjust temps to get results just right.


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Nov 07, 2018 07:26 |  #3

I think the photos are just fine: true to the environment and the sporty spirit.
If they were mine, I wouldn't want them to seem taken under studio lighting.




  
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Nov 07, 2018 08:19 |  #4

I would concentrate more on the composition - the dodging and burning of the shadows is good enough. Here is a mock up - I straightened and corrected the warped goal so it is level and not distorted by perspective. I used the patch tool in PS to move the goalposts in toward the players and then a crop to get rid of all of the dead space. Also applied is a slight blur to the background. The patch tool misaligned the net on the left fit image, but really, who cares? If you are more careful with your selection (i.e., along the rear support piping) then this will not happen. It is not worth trying to clone in matching netting. Also added a slight vignette. The image could probably use s boost in midtone brightness. You get the idea - don't overthink it.

Based on the last image you posted above.

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Nov 07, 2018 08:25 |  #5

You will never completely remove the shadows, it would look unnatural. Here are edits from LR that reduce them. I'll also share two TIF files that go a step further. You can decide if you want to use/keep them or not. (also straightened the image)


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Nov 07, 2018 08:34 |  #6

If you don't already have it, download and install a free trial of DxO.

EDITED Friday, November 09, 2018 - 11:20 AM >>> Load the RAW file in DxO; in the "Customize" tab, expand the "Selective Tone" palette and manipulate the "Highlights" and "Shadows" sliders to suit = I am usually amazed at the difference - I hope you are as well.

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Nov 07, 2018 10:14 |  #7

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Nov 08, 2018 21:22 |  #8

I liked this crop. I lightened the shadows a bit, but they seem less evident with the closer crop.


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Nov 09, 2018 01:33 as a reply to  @ rrblint's post |  #9

>> Load the RAW file in DxO; in the "Customize" tab, expand the "Selective Tone" palette and move the "Highlights" slider to the left = you will be amazed. <<

BuckSkin;
Would you be so kind and do this in DxO as you explained and share the result. I would highly appreciate if you show us what do you get, if you move ONLY the Highlights slider in DxO to the left without touching other sliders in Selective Ton palette.


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Nov 09, 2018 11:16 |  #10

Mathmans wrote in post #18747066 (external link)
>> Load the RAW file in DxO; in the "Customize" tab, expand the "Selective Tone" palette and move the "Highlights" slider to the left = you will be amazed. <<

BuckSkin;
Would you be so kind and do this in DxO as you explained and share the result. I would highly appreciate if you show us what do you get, if you move ONLY the Highlights slider in DxO to the left without touching other sliders in Selective Ton palette.

I must apologize that I forgot to add that the Shadows slider should also be moved to suit as well.

I would be happy to give it a try; however, I am on limited DISH internet and will have to wait until our monthly allowance renews; when our allotment runs out, they put us on super creepy-crawl speed and anything like that that I try to Download/Upload fails after a lengthy attempt.




  
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Nov 11, 2018 10:14 |  #11

I don't think that it was too far off, so I made a few adjustments within Capture One.


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Nov 12, 2018 01:16 as a reply to  @ tcphoto1's post |  #12

>> I must apologize that I forgot to add that the Shadows slider should also be moved to suit as well.I would be happy to give it a try; however, I am on limited DISH internet and will have to wait until our monthly allowance renews; when our allotment runs out, they put us on super creepy-crawl speed and anything like that that I try to Download/Upload fails after a lengthy attempt. <<

No problem at all BuckSkin.
The thing is that I’m using DxO from version DxO Optics Pro 8 and now I’m on DxO Photolab 2.0 but I still haven’t totally figured out how to rescue highlights to the same degree as I can do it in Lightroom and Capture one 11.2 and also in Adobe Camera Raw.
DxO is fine RAW converter and I'm using it a lot but unfortunately they still haven't fixed those Selective Tone sliders.
At least in my case DxO works for me most of the time and Prime noise is the best I have seen. Those Local adjustments also work very good.
But if I expose for the clouds and I need to lift shadows or if I need to rescue problematic highlights I don’t think DxO is the best tool out there.


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Dec 10, 2018 23:12 |  #13

Mathmans wrote in post #18749297 (external link)
But if I expose for the clouds and I need to lift shadows or if I need to rescue problematic highlights I don’t think DxO is the best tool out there.

Of course the best thing to do is to take bracketed sets with the camera at the time of capture; but then, we often don't remember such tricks until we get back home at the monitor.

If I only have the single capture, in DxO, I make a virtual copy and sometimes two; I adjust one copy for the highlights and the other for the shadows; if three copies, one for the shadows, one for the highlights, and one for the properly exposed area; I use a luminosity mask to blend the best parts of the pictures.




  
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