-= Canon EOS R owners unite! Post photos and discuss.

Beautiful! So sharrrrrrrp !!!

Pondrader wrote in post #18754284
The control ring really kinda completes the triangle.. Without the back wheel we are left with the screen. It works flawlessly in the lens or the adaptor...

I think it makes this camera much nicer to use if you are one who doesn't like messing with the back screen all the time.

There is no need to push or hold a button for control ring use. works as your wheel on a Dslr..


And Fella's talking about the CR3 files and their use is direct conversation about the EOS R as it is the only camera using it.. so I think its relevant and on topic..

Thanks for this video

But isn't this is basically Live View composing that all cameras with live view can do. I dont think its unique to the R

or

am I missing something

mdvaden wrote in post #18752897
This is from the original of my previous post, with the Lightroom exposure slider cranked to the extreme right, cropped 100%. There is some noise, but nothing I would call banding. The right shadow is from a light fixture on the ceiling. Likewise with the forest shot I shared the other day in this thread of the woman kneeling between redwoods is no banding.

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I see some fine horizontal banding there, but I have no idea how much this is pushed. When a camera model has banding in every specimen, it does not mean that banding shows in most or many shots. My concern is how true the real DR is to the measured DR or PDR, and having banding in the post-gain read noise (the dominant read noise at base ISO) keeps the practical DR from being as much as the charts say.

A camera stated to have 12 stops of DR, but has totally random noise character has a lot more *real*, practical DR than one with 13 stops measured, but highly banded read noise. Running into banding when you push shadows is much worse than running into spatially-random noise.

John Sheehy wrote in post #18754342
I see some fine horizontal banding there, but I have no idea how much this is pushed. When a camera model has banding in every specimen, it does not mean that banding shows in most or many shots. My concern is how true the real DR is to the measured DR or PDR, and having banding in the post-gain read noise (the dominant read noise at base ISO) keeps the practical DR from being as much as the charts say.

A camera stated to have 12 stops of DR, but has totally random noise character has a lot more *real*, practical DR than one with 13 stops measured, but highly banded read noise. Running into banding when you push shadows is much worse than running into spatially-random noise.

No idea how much it's pushed? My post should have noted the exposure slider was cranked all the way to the right. Whether there's fine banding is questionable. I can't really spot any and I'm trying to look for it. But if there is a hint that certain people can detect, bringing the exposure that extreme to reveal any indicates its probably of little concern.

tigerotor77w wrote in post #18753014
The follow-up question would therefore be -- should I expect any shadow banding with the EOS R in situations where the blacks are around 2 EV darker than what a "properly" metered scene would have? (The 6D does not have banding with this sort of push, but the shadows also don't necessarily look great in areas of high detail, either.)

Assuming that the R is like the 5D4 and 6D2; it has 1/3 stop more RAW headroom than the 6D, which means that if you want the expected shadow cleanliness hinted at by DR measurements, you need to expose these newer cameras 1/3 stop further to the right. If you don't, the benefit of the R in the shadows is reduced, and since it's read noise character is more banded than the 6D, you may get little benefit from the R, as the banding makes the shadows go yucky with less of a push.

Note that Imaging-Resource and DPR studio samples are exposed for the ISO setting; not its headroom, so when you can compare at the same ISO, the noise difference in the shadows is not directly related to DR, because you don't know how much of that DR is unused RAW headroom.

Question for all you lucky EOR R owners. Hidden deep in the UK spec sheet it says the R will support use of the Canon GP-E2 GPS Unit to directly embedd GPS data in the RAW files as per the 5D4 & 6D own inbuilt GPS. Has anyone got a GP-E2 and can they confirm a yes or no on its functional compatibility mounted on the EOS R please?

I ask as it seems some of the newer bodies no longer support the external GPS unit and require the battery wasting wifi link to get GPS data from a phone, whose battery also drains at a rate of knots to provide this data - progress allegedly. My 80D supports the GP-E2, but my latest generation APS-C mirrorless M50 doesn't even though the the older EOS M mk1 does!

therobveiller wrote in post #18754399
Question for all you lucky EOR R owners. Hidden deep in the UK spec sheet it says the R will support use of the Canon GP-E2 GPS Unit to directly embedd GPS data in the RAW files as per the 5D4 & 6D own inbuilt GPS. Has anyone got a GP-E2 and can they confirm a yes or no on its functional compatibility mounted on the EOS R please?

I ask as it seems some of the newer bodies no longer support the external GPS unit and require the battery wasting wifi link to get GPS data from a phone, whose battery also drains at a rate of knots to provide this data - progress allegedly. My 80D supports the GP-E2, but my latest generation APS-C mirrorless M50 doesn't even though the the older EOS M mk1 does!

The manual says it works with the GP-E2 I believe. Honestly the tagging from your cell phone works really well. I just make sure each time I start taking pictures that it shows that it has location locked on. Sometimes you have to go open the Canon app on your phone to get it to connect.

umphotography wrote in post #18754341
Thanks for this video

But isn't this is basically Live View composing that all cameras with live view can do. I dont think its unique to the R

or

am I missing something

Yes the back screen shows the same as the viewfinder. So your seeing all of above in the viewfinder. Mostly just demonstrating the control ring and how it works... but yes the R is always in live view mode as an af system..

mdvaden wrote in post #18754346
No idea how much it's pushed? My post should have noted the exposure slider was cranked all the way to the right. Whether there's fine banding is questionable. I can't really spot any and I'm trying to look for it. But if there is a hint that certain people can detect, bringing the exposure that extreme to reveal any indicates its probably of little concern.

I agree with you in that it’s all but impossible for people to draw conclusions from our images. It creates such drama and a incorrect assumption. They have no idea what we have done unless specified. I always find posting images so subjective and find myself explaining so often.

My RF 35mm shipped. I'm hoping I get it Wednesday before we leave for Thanksgiving!

randy98mtu wrote in post #18754506
My RF 35mm shipped. I'm hoping I get it Wednesday before we leave for Thanksgiving!

Can't wait to see some sample photos!

umphotography wrote in post #18754341
Thanks for this video

But isn't this is basically Live View composing that all cameras with live view can do. I dont think its unique to the R

or

am I missing something

Sorry Mike I was in the dr office responding to your post... In this video I was simply showing the control ring and adjustment on the camera. If your face is not up to the viewfinder the rear screen is active. But it did show the ease of use. at that time it was set on EC. I found it the most use set to ISO, but I'm sure it could be anything a guy wants.

Hi EOS R people. Great photos! So this camera system is here to stay? 30 years? Dozens of future bodies and 100 lenses? Is that what’s coming for sure?

AeroSmith wrote in post #18754709
Hi EOS R people. Great photos! So this camera system is here to stay? 30 years? Dozens of future bodies and 100 lenses? Is that what’s coming for sure?

I believe so. Imagine how much they have put into development to come out with a new platform of this magnitude with 4 lenses ranging from $500-$3000.