-= Canon EOS R owners unite! Post photos and discuss.

Pondrader wrote in post #18763810
The Youtubers are grinning all the way to the bank... So funny.

maybe you should get a utube channel to challenge them and earn some money

C Scott IV wrote in post #18763796
I agree and disagree. As a landscape photographer, if you already have a 5D IV and you wouldn't benefit from the EVF (think 10-stop filter) or flip screen then it probably doesn't make sense to get the R. If you are happy with "what Canon has in every other current camera" then it probably doesn't make sense to get the R.

But if you are like me, using a 80D with a 10-stop filter and can barely see if anything is sharp on the LCD because of the glare, and want to go full frame it makes a lot of sense. Then you have the bonus of the RF lenses, etc. I thought about the 6D II but I didn't need full frame 80D with its small AF area. The R really works for me for landscapes. And the 80D works well for wildlife.

I forgot to mention Diffraction Limited Aperture. It was really obvious on the 80D. The R is much better for landscape photography in that regard.

aladyforty wrote in post #18763813
maybe you should get a utube channel to challenge them and earn some money

lol I don't know about that... when I say what I think no one likes it.. better if I stay off the air waves I think lol

Pondrader wrote in post #18763818
lol I don't know about that... when I say what I think no one likes it.. better if I stay off the air waves I think lol

yeah, Id get banned pretty fast

C Scott IV wrote in post #18763815
I forgot to mention Diffraction Limited Aperture. It was really obvious on the 80D. The R is much better for landscape photography in that regard.

That explains some of my frustration. I kept thinking it was me doing something wrong.

C Scott IV wrote in post #18763815
I forgot to mention Diffraction Limited Aperture. It was really obvious on the 80D. The R is much better for landscape photography in that regard.

Charles as you know I shoot wildlife... Word is you landscape guys are completely pinning that exposer slider all the way to the right regular... Can you tell us how many times you've had to do this to get what you were looking for .

aladyforty wrote in post #18763820
yeah, Id get banned pretty fast

Jared P has been ripping Tony N for a while now... they both must be taken with a grain of salt..

Personally I think the new gear bug is a real pain... I had no choice but to be looking, I miss the 7DII everyday as a shoot everything camera, mine was just starting to really get good as broken as it was. I hate going through the pains of it all. I would much rather just shoot.

I think your best off to stick right where you are. The 7DII is hard to beat for the average joe just shooting for the fame and glory of it all.

The R is nice in many ways but you have to out shoot the jerks that complain about the little things... That evens the playing field.

Pondrader wrote in post #18763823
Charles as you know I shoot wildlife... Word is you landscape guys are completely pinning that exposer slider all the way to the right regular... Can you tell us how many times you've had to do this to get what you were looking for .

Interesting you should ask. For years with the original 7D I only shot after sunset or in full overcast, excluded the sky and exposed to the right in order to get any shadow detail. Or used HDR. The first two stops on the shadow end of the histogram looked like mud. So I would shoot in low contrast light so I could stretch the histogram in post. I was able to get some decent shots but had to work for them.

When I got the 80D the first thing I noticed was it overexposed without exposing to the right. So I started shooting more like you, Jeff, by underexposing a bit. Then I was able to get blue skies and still have shadow detail.

The R is pretty close to the 80D as far as metering and usable shadows goes. Maybe better. It sure is nice to have usable highlights and shadows without resorting to HDR. I still like shooting in low contrast light because I love subtle transitions in the tonal range.

As far as exposure settings in post processing goes, normally I set the white and black points using the curve then move the middle up or down until get what I'm looking for. Some times I make an S or reverse S curve. It usually doesn't take that much. Setting the white and black points usually brings the saturation to about what I saw from behind the camera.

Did that answer your question, Jeff?

Wow. Step away from the keyboard for a few hours and this thing blows up again. Can this banter go back to this thread and leave the "EOS R owners unite!" thread to, oh, owners?

With the 24-70 f/2.8L II.

C Scott IV wrote in post #18763846
Interesting you should ask. For years with the original 7D I only shot after sunset or in full overcast, excluded the sky and exposed to the right in order to get any shadow detail. Or used HDR. The first two stops on the shadow end of the histogram looked like mud. So I would shoot in low contrast light so I could stretch the histogram in post. I was able to get some decent shots but had to work for them.

When I got the 80D the first thing I noticed was it overexposed without exposing to the right. So I started shooting more like you, Jeff, by underexposing a bit. Then I was able to get blue skies and still have shadow detail.

The R is pretty close to the 80D as far as metering and usable shadows goes. Maybe better. It sure is nice to have usable highlights and shadows without resorting to HDR. I still like shooting in low contrast light because I love subtle transitions in the tonal range.

As far as exposure settings in post processing goes, normally I set the white and black points using the curve then move the middle up or down until get what I'm looking for. Some times I make an S or reverse S curve. It usually doesn't take that much. Setting the white and black points usually brings the saturation to about what I saw from behind the camera.

Did that answer your question, Jeff?

Charles .. Yes and No... I see your answer as never... and that is what I hoped for. Shooting low and pushing up has always been a thing I do until using the R as it seems to not give me the grief as much as the 7DII did.. I'm sure the 80D and the 7DII are much the same in the respect. I have to say though I have not had enough time shooting the R to make a real comparison as I just can't use it for a day and do a review.

I did try the HDR in camera and it worked quite well. The 7DII wanted so much to blow the high lights it forced me shoot this way, especially with snow on the ground, although it helped light the under chin areas cheeks and the tips of ears would burn.

The R is giving me much more stable whites somehow..

lol to funny Randy... people talk man .. lol

Pondrader wrote in post #18763759
I'm completely burnt out on watching guys cut up the R... give um the 7DII or the once hated 5Div... and cut um loose.

Maybe its time to look at how they measure their few hour review..

Maybe a raise of hands by those that think the manual focus guide was meant for 8 to 10 miles away rock formations.......... or maybe macro work ??

Or all the guys that have pushed their exposure slider all the way to the right in the last year... what rubbish... There's better ways to get that job done.

Maybe they should just wait and see what comes out of the population in images... Youtube is getting to be a huge joke..

I have no emotion either way. Each review and testament provides useful insight into the camera. It is just a tool, use it or don't, it isn't the best tool in the shed either for photography. It is the first gen of Canon's FF mirrorless. It cannot be, nor is it perfect. Some folks are very emotionally attached to this new release, and act like their family was insulted if anything negative is posted about it.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18763871
I have no emotion either way. Each review and testament provides useful insight into the camera. It is just a tool, use it or don't, it isn't the best tool in the shed either for photography. It is the first gen of Canon's FF mirrorless. It cannot be, nor is it perfect. Some folks are very emotionally attached to this new release, and act like their family was insulted if anything negative is posted about it.

That maybe true for some... .. I just see it as a tool but I ain't cryin about it not being the same spec as cameras worth a few thousand more I don't even try and measure the white paper against one another. It all comes out in the wash regardless.

Pondrader wrote in post #18763837
Jared P has been ripping Tony N for a while now... they both must be taken with a grain of salt..

Personally I think the new gear bug is a real pain... I had no choice but to be looking. I miss the 7DII everyday as a shoot everything camera, mine was just starting to really get good as broken as it was. I hate going through the pains of it all. I would much rather just shoot.

I think your best off to stick right where you are. The 7DII is hard to beat for the average joe just shooting for the fame and glory of it all.

The R is nice in many ways but you have to out shoot the jerks that complain about the little things... That evens the playing field.

A COUNTRY BALLAD

"I have a 7DII,
Yes, I do.
I have a 7DII.
And I do love that 7DII.

But then I got a hankerin' for that new little EOS R.
So cute! So many promises of
Good times together.
I had no choice but to be looking!
And I just couldn't resist!

Oh, yes, yes, yes!
Now how I love my EOS R!
She's definitely the one for me.
So glad I pursued her
Moved into the future
The R mount is where it's at
For those with discerning tastes!

Oh wait. I mean, I don't love the EOS R after all.
Not any more!
The love is gone.
Gone, gone, gone away is the love.
So I abandoned, I mean rejected, I mean returned my darling EOS R.
(Though I kept the photos of the good times.
Memories, such memories!
They just stay on your hard drive
And in your heart)

Yes, our brief relationship ended so soon.
The flame, it burned brightly!
But I questioned my decision nightly!
And so our time together was cut short.
So very short.
Short like a squirrel.
Like a delicate little red squirrel.
Scrunched up in a tree.
Short like that.
Very short.
Maybe a week
Or so.
A short week.

And so I went back to my wonderful, faithful dear 7DII.
My one and only
that has been faithful and true
Through lo, these many years together
Shooting foxes
And birds
And moose
And elk
And all kinds of other critters as well.
Such as squirrels.
(But not those nasty grey squirrels.
No sir! Not them!)

Oh NO! Now I miss My EOS R!
I'm simply PINING AWAY for my wonderful EOS R!
I should have given my beloved EOS R much more of a chance!
We hardly had time for a real romance!
We could have made such sweet photos together!
Whatever was I thinking?
I see others, all so happy, so very happy with their R's
And I think
That somehow,
Somehow I have made a sad, sad
Very very very sad
Yes, very sad mistake.
A sad mistake.
As sad a mistake as mistaking a red squirrel
For a grey squirrel.
(Yes, that sad.)

But then...

Oh, happy day!
Oh happy, HAPPY day!
I got ANOTHER EOS R!
Yes, I have replaced the missing piece.
My heart is once again complete!

Oh my goodness, I really DO love the EOS R!
The photos are sharp, oh so sharp!
That I cry out to the sun in the day,
And to the stars each night
(Those sharp, sharp stars
Those are the ones I'm talkin' about)
I cry out and say,
Just look at that fur!
Feast your eyes on those feathers!
That eye!
My oh my,
You can see ME in that eye!

And as the years go by I'm going to explore
More and more
All of the ins and outs of this beautiful little EOS R delicacy
This photographic morsel that is truly a golden gift
From the Canon camera gods,

And I will never, NEVER look back!
Not ever?
No, NEVER!

But alas!
Oh alas, for I have just realized:

I miss my 7DII every day."

(sad guitar strumming as the stage goes dark)

(I hope you realize that I am really just kidding! You should know that the reason I find your comments so entertaining is because I am exactly the same way! You seriously do not want to hear all of the things that go on in my head every time I make a decision about something, including camera gear! And it goes without saying that I absolutely am in awe of your photos. as I have said before. The funny thing is that you could be shooting with a homemade pinhole camera and your photos would still be better than mine, so I am in no way being critical!! You are an awesome photographer, Jeff. Now if you just had a good camera. . .LOL!)

haha right?