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Nov 25, 2018 16:51 |  #661

Cuttlefish wrote in post #18758347 (external link)
Hi,

I have been enjoying the wonderful shots taken by the EOS-R posted to POTN.
I would love to get one but it is expensive in the UK.

I would like to shoot FF with Canon.
Is the 6D Mark II the best option / bang for the buck compared to the EOS-R ?

……......(EOS-R body only is UK £2,349 x 1.28 Exchange Rate = US $3,006).
(EOS 6D Mark II body only is UK £1,549 x 1.28 Exchange Rate = US $1,982).

How quiet can the 6D shoot. I believe there is a silent option?

Thanks.

The shutter isn't that much more noticeably quiet. You'd still hear it in a quiet setting. I've had mine for a couple of months but it is a great camera. I upgraded from a 50D so the advances and image quality are much improved for me.


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Nov 26, 2018 05:11 |  #662

Honestly, the 6D mark II's silent mode is not nearly as good as the original 6D...and it's not nearly 2/3 quieter than the normal mode. As a matter of fact, the difference is barley noticeable IMO.


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Nov 29, 2018 14:24 |  #663

I just picked up a 6D II w 24-105 4.0 L II and starting to read through this thread. Can I ask what ISO can you push this camera to and get good portraits?


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Nov 30, 2018 03:12 |  #664

Cuttlefish wrote in post #18758375 (external link)
I wish the 6D Mk II was $1000 in the UK!!!!
Thanks for the reply :-)

Take a look at HDEW cameras. Grey import but 3 year warranty, great prices and great service.




  
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Nov 30, 2018 11:43 |  #665

I just picked one up for $1299 with grip.I wasn't touching it at the full price but at that price I had to get one,can't wait to do a shootout with it and my Nikon D750.


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Nov 30, 2018 13:28 |  #666

black friday deals canada - 6dmkii BODY ONLY with original canon battery grip and 128gb sd card $ 1700 canadian + tax 13%

Tamron 24-70 G2 lense $1750 tax in




  
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Nov 30, 2018 17:52 |  #667

Joined the club 2 day,,,,,,,now just have too wait for the doorbell ringy dingy !


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Dec 01, 2018 00:17 as a reply to  @ keeperseeker's post |  #668

Received mine. Bought during black Friday sale. Is it going to be big upgrade from 80d. Reviews regarding DR are terrible though. So far, I ran into DR issue using 70D when i took pictures with bright backlit. I ended up under exposing and needed 2 EV push. 70D shows noise with 2EV push and 80D handles pretty well. Is it going to be a problem with 6D2 shooting bright backlit subjects.


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Dec 01, 2018 08:38 |  #669

khwaja wrote in post #18761993 (external link)
Received mine. Bought during black Friday sale. Is it going to be big upgrade from 80d. Reviews regarding DR are terrible though. So far, I ran into DR issue using 70D when i took pictures with bright backlit. I ended up under exposing and needed 2 EV push. 70D shows noise with 2EV push and 80D handles pretty well. Is it going to be a problem with 6D2 shooting bright backlit subjects.

Keep in mind that you have more room to expose to the right, or need to expose a little bit less to the left with the newer Canons at base ISO. The current round has 1/3 stop to 1/2 stop more RAW headroom than the the models of yesteryear. Look at DxO's "Measured ISO" for the cameras, and you will see that by DxO's headroom standard, the newer Canons are measured ISO 63 or 64 at "ISO 100", while the earlier generation were generally 80 to 95 or so.

Unfortunately, if you shoot at very low f-numbers below 2.2 to 2.8 or so, with front-side-illuminated sensors, the cameras push the RAWs and lose highlights. If you're shooting at f/1.4, you're better off if the camera doesn't even know that the lens is there. There really should be a custom function to disable this unneeded firmware "help".




  
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Dec 02, 2018 05:18 as a reply to  @ khwaja's post |  #670

Is it going to be big upgrade from 80d.

Depends on what you are shooting. At high ISO, yes since it has 2.5X the light gathering area, that is good for 1-1/3 f-stops. At base ISO probably not. 80D DR at ISO 100 is equivalent (or better) and you don't have much of a pixel advantage with 26MP vs 24MP.

Will also depend on the quality of your glass for both camera bodies.


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Dec 02, 2018 09:15 |  #671

John Sheehy wrote in post #18762121 (external link)
Keep in mind that you have more room to expose to the right, or need to expose a little bit less to the left with the newer Canons at base ISO. The current round has 1/3 stop to 1/2 stop more RAW headroom than the the models of yesteryear. Look at DxO's "Measured ISO" for the cameras, and you will see that by DxO's headroom standard, the newer Canons are measured ISO 63 or 64 at "ISO 100", while the earlier generation were generally 80 to 95 or so.

Unfortunately, if you shoot at very low f-numbers below 2.2 to 2.8 or so, with front-side-illuminated sensors, the cameras push the RAWs and lose highlights. If you're shooting at f/1.4, you're better off if the camera doesn't even know that the lens is there. There really should be a custom function to disable this unneeded firmware "help".

Hi,
I did not understand 2nd part about front side illuminated sensors. 6D2 auto exposure seem to more robust in terms of exposing properly considering bright light spots in the scene. Hopefully, i won't be able to run into more than 2 stop under expose issue.

Thanks


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Dec 02, 2018 09:20 |  #672

russbecker wrote in post #18762693 (external link)
Depends on what you are shooting. At high ISO, yes since it has 2.5X the light gathering area, that is good for 1-1/3 f-stops. At base ISO probably not. 80D DR at ISO 100 is equivalent (or better) and you don't have much of a pixel advantage with 26MP vs 24MP.

Will also depend on the quality of your glass for both camera bodies.

Thanks for the information. I am assuming they are almost same at iso 100 for practical purpose. I have 50mm and 100mm primes. Planning to get 24-105mm kit lens. I need some telephone lens. I was using 100mm with my 80d to shoot kids soccer pics. With 6d2, It is not long enough.


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Dec 02, 2018 09:28 |  #673

khwaja wrote in post #18762819 (external link)
Hi,
I did not understand 2nd part about front side illuminated sensors. 6D2 auto exposure seem to more robust in terms of exposing properly considering bright light spots in the scene. Hopefully, i won't be able to run into more than 2 stop under expose issue.

Thanks

Depending on pixel and microlens size, FSI sensors lose some of the extra light you get when you open the lens aperture so that the f-number goes low. IOW, instead of getting 2 stops more light at f/1.4 than at f/2.8, you might only get 1.5 stops more light getting into the photosites. The camera fakes the missing light collection of 0.5 stops by multiplying the RAW data values. This approach serves the exposure triangle, but fails the RAW user who loses 0.5 stops of DR and highlights!

If the 6DII did not do this, then f/1.4 at 1/4000 might not clip sunlit whites! Canon only cares about their own internal standards and protocols; not your ability to shoot at f/1.4 in sunlight!




  
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Dec 02, 2018 09:40 |  #674

russbecker wrote in post #18762693 (external link)
Depends on what you are shooting. At high ISO, yes since it has 2.5X the light gathering area, that is good for 1-1/3 f-stops.

Of course, you need the optics to follow through on that, for the same FOV, but with a shallower DOF. That, or get closer to fill the frame, also with shallower DOF.

At base ISO probably not. 80D DR at ISO 100 is equivalent (or better) and you don't have much of a pixel advantage with 26MP vs 24MP.

At this point in time, DxO DR has nothing, and PDR has a small something to do with sensor size at base ISO (with Canon sensors). It comes mainly from the type of sensor array readout circuitry, and number of pixels in the image, and the more pixels the better for any readout circuitry. The pixel-level post-gain noise that typically limits DR has nothing to do with the size of the pixel or its electronic characteristics; it is the noise of the array readout after photosite charge amplification.




  
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Dec 09, 2018 13:43 |  #675

Joined the Club last night. After having 2 Defective Nikon D750s having shot Nikons for years in the Military. Came up from Film through the D1 D1X D2H in Iraq and Afghanistan. Moving up to D700 after retirement. My D750s were to say the least disappointing 1st one had EER messages bad shutter intermittent lock ups three different batteries with or without battery grip. Second couldn't get back to 51 zone AF after single point all the others but not the 51 zone unless two button reset. Spent years with shooters from AP, and numerous international agencies in Combat areas tough environments. Nikon NPS doesn't take care of Pros nearly as well as Canon CPS. Took out my new 6DII this morning and it rocks solid great metering, glass is stellar, the Canon L makes Nikon 24-120 look bad. I'm happy to have switched. Shot outside 24 degrees on local river rapids long exposure, short exposure, quick button next to rear wheel is ingenious for quick settings changes. Ergonomics are great, images look great, Solid operationally. Now to sell 4 Nikon lenses and finally be done with them. Remember shooting in Afghanistan with Canon 1 Series with 16-35L what great images at 5000 ft.




  
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