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Dec 11, 2018 12:05 |  #1

I have been out of the photography game for awhile. Is my first generation 7D still considered a good piece of kit or are there must have features I should be taking advantage of in a newer camera? Maybe instead buy additional lenses?
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Dec 11, 2018 12:30 |  #2

It depends on what you are looking for out of the camera. There have been advancements in features for sure, the 7DII has a better AF for instance and the 80D has improved the dynamic range of the sensor but outside of features, the 7D still delivers image quality to rival all the new cameras. I think where you really see the differences is when shooting in the extremes, that is when pushing a camera to it's limits. Do you find the 7D failing you? If so, maybe an upgrade will solve your problems. If not, maybe glass is the way to go.


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Dec 11, 2018 12:46 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #3

I can't say the 7D is failing me anywhere. If anything I am probably failing it. -?
I have been looking at the Canon 100-400 and would prefer to spend the $$ on that than a new camera if possible. I owned an early copy of the 100-400 and liked the image quality. I hear the II is even better.


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Dec 11, 2018 13:07 |  #4

If you like long lenses, the Siggy 150-600c is another to look at. I was quite surprised at the IQ, better than my 100-400v1.


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Dec 11, 2018 13:42 |  #5

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If you like long lenses, the Siggy 150-600c is another to look at. I was quite surprised at the IQ, better than my 100-400v1.

Thanks for the info. I will take a look at it.


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Dec 11, 2018 13:55 as a reply to  @ TORCHRIDER's post |  #6

I was in your situation, I had moved from a T3i (my first DSLR) to a used 7D. I mainly do sports with some landscape/wildlife. My 7D was fine but I sometimes longed for slightly better AF for birds and some of the faster moving sports. Plus when shooting indoor sports. I was gifted a 7D II for a birthday gift and have been shooting it now for about a month. I have not done enough shots to say that the IQ is better but the AF system is better.

I have used a borrowed Canon 100-400L II quite a bit and it is a awesome lens.




  
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Dec 11, 2018 14:36 |  #7

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I was in your situation, I had moved from a T3i (my first DSLR) to a used 7D. I mainly do sports with some landscape/wildlife. My 7D was fine but I sometimes longed for slightly better AF for birds and some of the faster moving sports. Plus when shooting indoor sports. I was gifted a 7D II for a birthday gift and have been shooting it now for about a month. I have not done enough shots to say that the IQ is better but the AF system is better.

I have used a borrowed Canon 100-400L II quite a bit and it is a awesome lens.

Thank You for the feedback. It is much appreciated.


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Dec 11, 2018 14:54 |  #8

TORCHRIDER wrote in post #18768873 (external link)
I can't say the 7D is failing me anywhere. If anything I am probably failing it. -?
I have been looking at the Canon 100-400 and would prefer to spend the $$ on that than a new camera if possible. I owned an early copy of the 100-400 and liked the image quality. I hear the II is even better.

The 7DII is what the MkI *should* have been when it was released. I still have yet to upgrade my crop body from the MkII, even at this late date.

Given the choice between body and lens upgrade, in this situation, however; I would go with the glass. Especially if the 100-400MkII is the target. You'd still be using a decent body with one of the best zoom lenses Canon makes at this time.

The AF settings and Wide/Tele MFA are two of the major upgrades you would get out of changing bodies, however. Also, useful Auto ISO + EC is SOOO nice to finally have in my back pocket when lighting gets hairy.

Again, either one is a great update for you; with glass getting the edge for utility and quality's sake.


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Dec 11, 2018 15:39 |  #9

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The 7DII is what the MkI *should* have been when it was released. I still have yet to upgrade my crop body from the MkII, even at this late date.

Given the choice between body and lens upgrade, in this situation, however; I would go with the glass. Especially if the 100-400MkII is the target. You'd still be using a decent body with one of the best zoom lenses Canon makes at this time.

The AF settings and Wide/Tele MFA are two of the major upgrades you would get out of changing bodies, however. Also, useful Auto ISO + EC is SOOO nice to finally have in my back pocket when lighting gets hairy.

Again, either one is a great update for you; with glass getting the edge for utility and quality's sake.


Excellent feedback. Thank You.


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Dec 11, 2018 16:00 |  #10

Honestly, the 7D is a great camera I have 2. I just wasn't happy with the noise @ high ISO so I went FF. That being said, I will continue using the 7Ds until they completely fail. When I cover a 1:00 kick off the FF stays at home & I take the 7Ds.




  
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Dec 11, 2018 16:08 |  #11

Snydremark wrote in post #18768954 (external link)
The 7DII is what the MkI *should* have been when it was released. I still have yet to upgrade my crop body from the MkII, even at this late date....

I agree that the MkII is what the MkI should have bee, but yet today, there is no upgrade path from the 7DII unless you go full frame. One could argue that the 80D is in some ways better, at least sensor wise, but the 7DII is still sold as Canon top crop.


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Dec 11, 2018 16:11 as a reply to  @ TORCHRIDER's post |  #12

And to be clear, all of my use of the Canon 100-400L was with the 7D. Great for sports and wildlife. Took it to Africa and it was great




  
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Dec 11, 2018 16:11 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #13

The 80D is better at low ISO shadows I feel, but not at higher ISO. I think the 7D2 is still the best APS-C at high ISOs, but that is from comparisons from various files/sources and not first hand ownership, other than personally owning the SL2 and M50 that supposedly have the same sensor.


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Dec 11, 2018 17:17 |  #14

Personally, I'd definitely put the money in lenses. The 7D is a solid shooter.


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Dec 11, 2018 21:43 |  #15

IMO, your initial posts seem to indicate you still like your 7DI. Yes, newer bodies have better specs, but if you haven't found a limitation, then there's no point in upgrading (one of the important aspects of not getting into GAS). With my route, my first DSLR was a 5DI because it was a new FF I could afford. Even though the 5D2 had higher MP and video capabilities, I never felt compelled to buy it because it had the same AF (the main feature I found lacking with the 5D: even coming from previous MF SLRs). I upgraded to the 5D3 because of its way much improved AF, and found that its DR was better (no longer got noise with even the most conservative shadow raise). For stills, the 5D4 is a nice upgrade for me as well with higher MP and DR (the AF spread is just slightly wider then 5D3). I did own the 7D2 for a bit (but didn't use it much because I am a FF person). Its high ISO is still supposed to be competitive, but the huge advantage it has for crop models is AF and continuous speed.

Lenses, though, have a better shelf life and less depreciation in value. Canon 100-400 or Sigma 150-600 (C or S) are all great lenses to consider. I got the Sigma 150-600c because I just use the ultra-telephoto occasionally, and the c is easier to hand hold (read that optically, C and S are pretty equal).


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