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Dec 11, 2018 15:59 |  #31

I agree with renting whatever equipment you choose to use. You can use a higher level of gear for this event without the concerns of purchasing. Go for an upper level full frame body and L glass and then return it all.


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Dec 12, 2018 00:25 |  #32

I just have to continue to chuckle a bit at this thread. Let's not overcomplicate things. We're looking at a small, simple civil ceremony and an informal reception. Pretty basic, straight forward stuff here, yet we're talking about having to rent or purchase gear over and above what's listed. We're talking about shooting wide open at 1.8 or better, at the same time being mindful of positioning oneself or subjects because of the razor thin DOF that would come into play (and we're worried about camera settings being complicated). Relax, this shouldn't be that hard. If you can't get nice results with your existing gear (which is solid), you need to turn in your photographer card.
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Dec 12, 2018 00:58 |  #33

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May I add rent a Canon EOS R and adapter ring to add a few sticks to fuel the flames?

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He's shooting a wedding. You know the rules, he needs two card slots  :p




  
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Dec 12, 2018 06:47 |  #34

texkam wrote in post #18769223 (external link)
I just have to continue to chuckle a bit at this thread. Let's not overcomplicate things. We're looking at a small, simple civil ceremony and an informal reception. Pretty basic, straight forward stuff here, yet we're talking about having to rent or purchase gear over and above what's listed. We're talking about shooting wide open at 1.8 or better, at the same time being mindful of positioning oneself or subjects because of the razor thin DOF that would come into play (and we're worried about camera settings being complicated). Relax, this shouldn't be that hard. If you can't get nice results with your existing gear (which is solid), you need to turn in your photographer card.
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I think the suggestions to rent are there so that any fear in existing gear or ability to shoot can be alleviated a bit by renting something that will indeed handle the situation even better. There is nothing wrong with making sure the gear is the best one can get their hands on for a little bit of money. Anybody that can get decent pictures with the 70D and gear in this situation can get even better pictures with a newer camera/sensor.

The 70D sensor is 2009 era, and any rented current FF will be 1.5 to 2 stops better at the higher ISOs, which is one less thing to worry about, plus they will AF in lower light better, and their shadow recovery will be better. A 6D would be a good tool and rental shouldn't be too much.


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Dec 12, 2018 06:49 as a reply to  @ bildeb0rg's post |  #35

If you read a few member's posts on the EOS R threads, now with its introduction, the only camera one should use is the EOS R and RF lenses, because everything else is now suddenly crap. ;)


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Dec 12, 2018 15:17 as a reply to  @ texkam's post |  #36

Just talking. That's what forums are for. Let's face it, a majority of us here have more equipment than we need.




  
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Dec 12, 2018 15:42 |  #37

SereneSpeed wrote in post #18768865 (external link)
Rent/buy (or buy then sell) a nifty 50 for the T4i. No flash required and you have a nice details/pretty good reach lens.

forget triggers and complications. Bounce flash from on your 70D. Shoot the whole thing with the 18-55 2.8, by far the money maker focal length for weddings.

KISS

Easy peasy.

Put the flash on your 70D with the 18-55 and use it every day (from now until the wedding) in a new spot, adjusting exposure and FEC to 'see what happens'. Shoot anything. Shoot something backlit by a window. Sidelit by a window, experimenting with bounced flash for fill. Shoot in the dark with just bounced flash. Shoot in bright light with high contrast and use your flash in HSS for fill. Etc... <<< Doing that will give you far better results than any gear upgrade.


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The 70D has a long history of having a bounce flash problem that canon either refuses to fix or dont know how to fix. The camera has had it since day 1. Its why I sold my 70D long ago, well that and it was also one of the 10's of thousands that canon sent out with a focus issue.

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Dec 12, 2018 15:53 |  #38

texkam wrote in post #18769223 (external link)
I just have to continue to chuckle a bit at this thread. Let's not overcomplicate things. We're looking at a small, simple civil ceremony and an informal reception. Pretty basic, straight forward stuff here, yet we're talking about having to rent or purchase gear over and above what's listed. We're talking about shooting wide open at 1.8 or better, at the same time being mindful of positioning oneself or subjects because of the razor thin DOF that would come into play (and we're worried about camera settings being complicated). Relax, this shouldn't be that hard. If you can't get nice results with your existing gear (which is solid), you need to turn in your photographer card.
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I agree with this. Stick with known gear. Keep it as simple as possible.

What matters most is knowing which shots to get, knowing how to shoot those, knowing your gear, being able to work fast, and staying cool.


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Dec 12, 2018 16:01 |  #39

Scoobert wrote in post #18769619 (external link)
BAD IDEA

The 70D has a long history of having a bounce flash problem that canon either refuses to fix or dont know how to fix. The camera has had it since day 1. Its why I sold my 70D long ago, well that and it was also one of the 10's of thousands that canon sent out with a focus issue.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1347702

https://community.usa.​canon.com …D-bounce-flash/td-p/57013 (external link)

just add +2/3 on the FEC...i bounce all the time with my 70D, it's not that hard to figure out if you need to add FEC or not...


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Dec 12, 2018 20:48 |  #40

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The 70D sensor is 2009 era, and any rented current FF will be 1.5 to 2 stops better at the higher ISOs, which is one less thing to worry about, plus they will AF in lower light better, and their shadow recovery will be better. A 6D would be a good tool and rental shouldn't be too much.

just curious how do you come up with 2009 era for the sensor? i mean 2013 is already pretty old for camera tech, but i don't see how it would be 2009


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Dec 12, 2018 21:01 |  #41

DreDaze wrote in post #18769769 (external link)
just curious how do you come up with 2009 era for the sensor? i mean 2013 is already pretty old for camera tech, but i don't see how it would be 2009

Despite the 70D having a slight upgrade from 18 to 20Mpx, it almost exactly mirrors the 60D in performance in DR and noise throughout the the range. It does seem that the 60D/70D had a very slight improvement over the 7D as a whole though. So despite the sensor bump in 2012/2013 from 18 to 20, it seems to be pretty much the same performer, announced in 2010, but added DPAF and 2Mpx in 2012 or so. Yes I am mistaken about 2009, it seemed so long ago, and the 7D2 is actually quite old for an APS-C now.


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Dec 13, 2018 11:54 |  #42

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The OP does list his lights (last paragraph).

I missed that. Oops.


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Dec 14, 2018 02:40 |  #43

In your case, I would rent :

02 x used 5D mark II or mark III
01 x 35mm f/2 IS
01 x 85mm f/1,8
01 x 24mm f/1,4
01 x 135mm f/2
01 x 100mm makro
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I may also ask a second shooter to assist in the shooting too for the groom while you concentrate on the bride.


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Dec 14, 2018 02:49 |  #44

I have not followed this thread but as long as you have backup bodies and pick up one up with lower mileage then I don't see why not.


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Dec 14, 2018 08:48 |  #45

Ah-keong wrote in post #18770600 (external link)
In your case, I would rent :

02 x used 5D mark II or mark III
01 x 35mm f/2 IS
01 x 85mm f/1,8
01 x 24mm f/1,4
01 x 135mm f/2
01 x 100mm makro
01 x fisheye

I may also ask a second shooter to assist in the shooting too for the groom while you concentrate on the bride.

:eek: have you read the op?


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