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Nov 26, 2018 06:29 |  #1531

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Love these!!

How easy is the mod, and what lenses will it work with?

Thanks

The mod was pretty easy. I saw this article and video about this guy from the middle east who experiments with different lenses and he used the MC Zenitar M2s, so I used that one.
You just flip the center element over and reassemble everything back together as normal.
https://www.diyphotogr​aphy.net …-a-vintage-50mm-f-2-lens/ (external link)

I don't know if it what results you can get with other lenses, but it may be interesting to try. I used a special spanner to disassemble the lens, though. It's much easier to use than a knife blade!

edit/ Check out the Flickr group "Lens Hackers". Lots of cool stuff in there. One guy has some cool results with his Helios by inverting both the front and rear elements.


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Nov 26, 2018 11:59 as a reply to  @ wyntastr's post |  #1532

Interesting!!! So interesting I’ve just bought a mint- Zenitar M2s for £25 to have a play! I’ll post results after I’ve modified it. :-)


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Dec 15, 2018 13:48 as a reply to  @ Sir_Loin's post |  #1533

So I got the Zenitar M2s and today had the chance to flip the middle element. Here’s the first couple of shots of my Christmas lights delibrately shot out of focus to see the effect. I like it! Obviously it won’t be overused or it turns in to a gimmick, but for £25 it was worth a go.


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Dec 15, 2018 20:32 |  #1534

Sir_Loin wrote in post #18771431 (external link)
So I got the Zenitar M2s and today had the chance to flip the middle element. Here’s the first couple of shots of my Christmas lights delibrately shot out of focus to see the effect. I like it! Obviously it won’t be overused or it turns in to a gimmick, but for £25 it was worth a go.

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Terrific effect! Wish I could pick lenses up for those kinds of $$ here in NZ.


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Dec 15, 2018 23:11 |  #1535

Sir_Loin wrote in post #18771431 (external link)
So I got the Zenitar M2s and today had the chance to flip the middle element. Here’s the first couple of shots of my Christmas lights delibrately shot out of focus to see the effect. I like it! Obviously it won’t be overused or it turns in to a gimmick, but for £25 it was worth a go.

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I've got a spare Helios 58 f/2 maybe I could try with that


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Dec 16, 2018 02:28 as a reply to  @ roseyposey's post |  #1536

It will do the job


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Dec 16, 2018 05:46 |  #1537

roseyposey wrote in post #18771653 (external link)
I've got a spare Helios 58 f/2 maybe I could try with that

I think they flip the front element don't they on the 44-2??


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Dec 16, 2018 07:57 |  #1538

My vintage glass:

Industar 50-2 50mm f/3.5
Helios 44-2 58mm f/2
Helios 44-6M 58mm f/2 MC
Zenitar M2s 50mm f/2 Modified (see previous post)
Carl Zeiss Jena DDR 135mm f/3.5 MC
Tamron 500mm f/8 Mirror 55BB
Tamron 38-100mm f/3.5 (Silver) This is a 70’s lens & built like a tank! All metal. I was lucky to find one in such good condition!


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Dec 19, 2018 02:17 |  #1539

MC Zenitar M2s w/magic bokeh mod

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Dec 24, 2018 09:52 |  #1540

So I’ve just added a couple of radioactive ☢️ lenses to my collection! A Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 Zebra made between 1965-67 with Thorium element. It has a lovely yellowing but add a skylight filter and it reduces it a bit (though AWB will hide it anyway). And a SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4 with rubber focus ring made between 1973-75 again with Thorium elements. Not quite so yellow, but still there nonetheless. Ok, I know they’re not Soviet glass, but at least one is East German! I’ll post some shots after Christmas.


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Dec 27, 2018 08:09 |  #1541

I’m looking for opinions please. Which is a better lens for that swirly bokeh, the Helios 44M (8 blades) or the 44-2? I have the 44-2 and 44M-6. Thanks!


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Dec 27, 2018 10:46 |  #1542

Sir_Loin wrote in post #18778739 (external link)
I’m looking for opinions please. Which is a better lens for that swirly bokeh, the Helios 44M (8 blades) or the 44-2? I have the 44-2 and 44M-6. Thanks!

From what I've read, the earlier (older) versions of the Helios 44 series are the ones that produce this effect more readily. Your 44-2 would be the one that works best.
I've read that with each new version, (44-3 to 44-7) they made them sharper and as such, it was harder to produce the swirly effect as well, although it still could be done.
Another thing, the effect is more noticeable on a full frame sensor than on a crop, as the effect is more apparent the further away from the center of the frame you get.


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Mar 27, 2019 18:09 |  #1543

Helios 44-2

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Mar 30, 2019 08:35 |  #1544

Mir 1B 37mm f2.8 wide open on the 5D


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Apr 16, 2019 04:35 |  #1545

Helios 44-2 58mm f2, Canon Eos Rebel Xs / 1000D

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