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Dec 16, 2018 14:53 |  #1576

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For those who shoot outdoors in cold conditions, how would you focus if you were wearing gloves? I don't have the camera, but am I right to assume that you can customize any of the buttons to move the focal points?


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Dec 16, 2018 14:57 |  #1577

bbqkid8 wrote in post #18772070 (external link)
What a beauty!

For those who shoot outdoors in cold conditions, how would you focus if you were wearing gloves? I don't have the camera, but am I right to assume that you can customize any of the buttons to move the focal points?

AFAIK you can only set the directional buttons other than use the touchscreen. I can't remember seeing it as an option for the other buttons.


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Dec 16, 2018 15:05 |  #1578

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AFAIK you can only set the directional buttons other than use the touchscreen. I can't remember seeing it as an option for the other buttons.

Sounds good. Thanks.


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Dec 16, 2018 15:22 |  #1579

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I'm not exactly sure what you're saying here, but you're looking at the histogram of the conversion, not the RAW, so the HTP version has a stop more to the right of the histogram than the -1EC ISO 100 version does.

That makes two of us I guess. What is the HTP histogram is a conversion of? Is it not a histogram of ISO 100 (equivelent) plus the HTP curve.

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The 200/HTP RAW should be able to handle ISO 50 exposure as well as ISO 50, which is the same thing under the hood, other than the metering. 50, 100, and 200/HTP use the same gain and digitization, in recent cameras.

ISO 50 and 100 aren't available when using HTP. Are you saying that 30 sec @ f/11 would have the same exposure at ISO 50, 100 and 200/HTP? I definitely don't understand.

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[Edit:] Sorry, i forgot to mention that even though the RAW can handle it, the JPEG would be washed out.


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Dec 16, 2018 15:31 |  #1580

bbqkid8 wrote in post #18772070 (external link)
What a beauty!

For those who shoot outdoors in cold conditions, how would you focus if you were wearing gloves? I don't have the camera, but am I right to assume that you can customize any of the buttons to move the focal points?

The AF point select button enables the front dial for horizontal and the rear dial for vertical AF point placement. Not sure but you may be able to configure the D-pad for AF point similar to the 80D.


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Dec 16, 2018 15:48 |  #1581

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For those who may be curious about the crop circles. Not that kind of crop circle! The image circle of an APS-C lens on the R. These are with the Tamron 18-400.


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I don’t understand. WTH?




  
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Dec 16, 2018 16:14 |  #1582

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I don’t understand. WTH?

The image circle of an APS-C is smaller than the Full Frame sensor. The images were to show the size of that circle for those who may be thinking of using third party APS-C lenses on the EOS R. A person could use this setup for square cropped shots.


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Dec 16, 2018 16:34 |  #1583

C Scott IV wrote in post #18772095 (external link)
The AF point select button enables the front dial for horizontal and the rear dial for vertical AF point placement. Not sure but you may be able to configure the D-pad for AF point similar to the 80D.

I didn't know this, thanks!


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Dec 16, 2018 16:55 |  #1584

bbqkid8 wrote in post #18772070 (external link)
What a beauty!

For those who shoot outdoors in cold conditions, how would you focus if you were wearing gloves? I don't have the camera, but am I right to assume that you can customize any of the buttons to move the focal points?

Shooting wildlife I tend to only use centre point of which I believe is 143 AF Points.. I'm not sure what small centre is. It does make it easier in the winter to not have to move point. But I set the D-Pad for moving AF point and the set button to centre AF. If under custom buttons you set to ..Direct AF method selection... you will be able to move using only the D-pad control without any function button first. \

Wearing heavy gloves can be a problem so in fast action I use thinner gloves... when I can't feel my fingers anymore I just get my hands back in something warm.

I have always been a back button focus guy but with the R I'm finding I don't need the AF on all the time so at the moment I'm trying shutter half press. it seems to work ok for now.


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Dec 16, 2018 17:16 |  #1585

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The image circle of an APS-C is smaller than the Full Frame sensor. The images were to show the size of that circle for those who may be thinking of using APS-C lenses on the EOS R. A person could use this setup for square cropped shots.

But the actual image will be cropped not shown as a damn circle, right? :twisted:




  
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Dec 16, 2018 17:57 as a reply to  @ i-G12's post |  #1586

On my gear, yes full circle, or if zoomed in enough get normal ratio as set.
As I zoom out from there I get an ever encroaching circle starting at the corners.
Not EOSR though. But imagine would have to be same unless camera intelligence takes over. Doubt that though.



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Dec 16, 2018 18:20 |  #1587

C Scott IV wrote in post #18772088 (external link)
That makes two of us I guess. What is the HTP histogram is a conversion of? Is it not a histogram of ISO 100 (equivelent) plus the HTP curve.

The histogram you showed me looks like the histogram of the image that the converter would create; not the RAW.

The histogram of the RAW image would be the same for both, if the absolute exposure was the same (same light, Av, and Tv).

ISO 50 and 100 aren't available when using HTP. Are you saying that 30 sec @ f/11 would have the same exposure at ISO 50, 100 and 200/HTP? I definitely don't understand.

They all have the same RAW histogram; the RAW metadata simply notes that they have different RAW values intended to be white in a conversion, but you can always override that in a converter.




  
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Dec 16, 2018 18:37 |  #1588

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But the actual image will be cropped not shown as a damn circle, right? :twisted:

From what I've read the R will automatically crop when an Canon EF-S lens is attached. This is a third party APS-C lens and the R doesn't crop it.


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Dec 16, 2018 18:44 |  #1589

John Sheehy wrote in post #18772167 (external link)
The histogram you showed me looks like the histogram of the image that the converter would create; not the RAW.

The histogram of the RAW image would be the same for both, if the absolute exposure was the same (same light, Av, and Tv).

They all have the same RAW histogram; the RAW metadata simply notes that they have different RAW values intended to be white in a conversion, but you can always override that in a converter.

Thanks, John. I think I understand.


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