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Dec 17, 2018 15:31 |  #1

I am about to be gifted a 6Dmkii, which will be my first full frame camera. I am lacking a lens in the "standard" zoom range that will work on the 6Dmkii.

As much as I would love to purchase a 24-70 f/2.8L II, it is out of my current price range.

I am looking for essentially a "general purpose" range. Wider probably more important than longer. So for example, if the 24-105 f/4L IS II is nice, but the 24-70 f/4L IS is better, I don't mind losing the 30mm on the long end.

f/2.8 speeds would be nice as I shoot the occasional HS/college theater event as a courtesy for friends and have borrowed lenses in the past, but I don't know if f/2.8 is possible with a $750-$1000 (or less) price budget.

I am not opposed to 3rd party brands as long as the focus is comparable in reliability and speed.

Any suggestions? I can read all the reviews, but I prefer getting suggestions from people that have actually used the equipment for more than a few days to write a review.


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Dec 17, 2018 16:25 |  #2

for walkaround you have it right with the first two L lenses. i'd get the 24-70 f4. you can always buy other lenses for other needs, and I assume that's why you bought a DSLR.


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Dec 17, 2018 17:03 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #3

Thanks, Ed. I am leaning toward the 24-70 f/4 but also didn't know if there was something out there that I was missing from a 3rd party or one of those "hidden gem" sort of lenses.

I have had various DSLR's for a number of years, and my 7DmkII isn't going anywhere, but this will be the first full frame and I realize that I gave away to my son my only "walk around" lens that would have worked on a full frame body (an older Tamron 28-75).


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Dec 18, 2018 17:03 |  #4

My vote would go to the 24-70 F2.8 V2. Unfortunately it is a wee bit pricey!

I don't need the F2.8 aperture but what I do need/want is the IQ that this lens delivers + there is no IS, win win! The sharpness. colour rendition, etc of the lens is top notch - it actually makes me look like I know what I am doing!

If you can't stretch to one of these (how many of us can?) then the 24-105 or 24-70 F4 options a re very good - just don't try a 24-70 F2.8 V2...............:twisted:


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Dec 18, 2018 17:46 |  #5

You could consider third party lenses. For example the Tamron 28-75 mm f/2.8


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Dec 18, 2018 20:56 |  #6

I truly wish that I had the spare change for a Canon 24-70 f2.8, but alas, since just about "Day 1" a couple of years ago when I bought my 6D the spare change has been missing. What I did buy was a Tamron 28-75 F2.8. It has been on the 6D for probably 95%+ of the time. It has served me well, though I still lust after some L glass in that zoom range. I sometimes shoot a 135L or maybe a 35mm non-L, but that Tamron is the day-in and day-out "lens of choice".

One day I'll make the move and grab a Canon piece of glass in the 25-70mm or 24-104mm range, but for the last four years I've been satisfied. And I may be satisfied with F4 being as my interest is low/available light and the L flavors have IS. But still.... ;-)a

I agree with Wilt, there's some good third-party lenses out there. If a Canon is out of your price range then don't be afraid of the Tamron.


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Dec 19, 2018 03:36 |  #7

Wilt wrote in post #18773614 (external link)
You could consider third party lenses. For example the Tamron 28-75 mm f/2.8

I'd be trying the G2 Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC before the old 28-75. Probably out of the price range though


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Dec 19, 2018 07:42 as a reply to  @ smythie's post |  #8

That wold indeed be an upgrade from the 28-75...for a price. But, a nice lens non-the-less. Good point.


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Dec 19, 2018 11:16 |  #9

johnf3f wrote in post #18773577 (external link)
My vote would go to the 24-70 F2.8 V2. Unfortunately it is a wee bit pricey!

I don't need the F2.8 aperture but what I do need/want is the IQ that this lens delivers + there is no IS, win win! The sharpness. colour rendition, etc of the lens is top notch - it actually makes me look like I know what I am doing!

If you can't stretch to one of these (how many of us can?) then the 24-105 or 24-70 F4 options a re very good - just don't try a 24-70 F2.8 V2...............:twisted:

John, I have borrowed/used the 24-70 f/2.8 v2 a handful of times from a friend that has one and I absolutely love it, but it isn't in the budget at this time. If it was, I wouldn't have had to start this thread. :lol:

Wilt, I will have to check out the Tamron options.

Has anybody tried the Sigma 24-105 f/4 Art as an alternative to either the Canon 24-105 or the f/4 version of the Canon 24-70?


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Dec 19, 2018 12:31 |  #10

Get the old version 24-105 used. It's no more than $500.00, usually mush less..

That is a good general use lens at the best price point. It will certainly hold you over.


My other recommendation would be forgo the zoom and grab a nice set of affordable primes. ;)
Wide end is the toughest, too bad the 24mm pancake is EF-S,. the only option coming to mind is the 28mm f/1.8 USM.

But the 50mm 1.8 STM and 85mm 1.8 USM would handle the middle and long end of the zoom range without breaking the bank, and you'd get the bonus of much faster than f/2.8 at all FL.


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Dec 19, 2018 15:35 |  #11

Would there be a concern about the ER01 message regarding the ribbon cable failure for older 24-105mm's?


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Dec 19, 2018 16:12 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #12

I was nodding my head in agreement with advice about the used 24-105L but you lost me when you suggested several primes as a "walkaround" :rolleyes::-P


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Dec 19, 2018 16:14 |  #13

Intheswamp wrote in post #18774207 (external link)
Would there be a concern about the ER01 message regarding the ribbon cable failure for older 24-105mm's?


not sure what you are asking. are you asking if one should be concerned about buying a used lens because it may fail in the future? if that's your question I say "no".


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Dec 19, 2018 16:44 |  #14

KurtB wrote in post #18774054 (external link)
John, I have borrowed/used the 24-70 f/2.8 v2 a handful of times from a friend that has one and I absolutely love it, but it isn't in the budget at this time. If it was, I wouldn't have had to start this thread. :lol:

Save a bit and one can be had. Check out my current gear list that I bought on my extremely low income, if I told you how low it is then you would call me a liar! It is all down to how much you want it.............;-)a


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Dec 19, 2018 17:26 |  #15

ed rader wrote in post #18774227 (external link)
not sure what you are asking. are you asking if one should be concerned about buying a used lens because it may fail in the future? if that's your question I say "no".

Not lenses in general, but rather specifically about the old version of the 24-105mm F4 which Jake mentioned. It seems that particular lens did have a higher failure rate than normal. I guess it could have been due to it being a very popular and high-production lens.

Particularly my thoughts were in regards to the topic of this thread and other threads here on POTN and elsewhere... Looking for Canon 24-105 L IS USM owners with problems.


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