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Dec 11, 2018 04:37 |  #1

Hi guys!

I bought an Profoto head and wanted to use the 175cm octabox on it, but afcourse the Profoto to Elinchrom adapter isn't solid enough.

I want a good alternative to use on location

I was thinking the phottix deep Octa 80cm or the deep silver umbrella 120cm. I like these because they are so easy and quick to setup. I also want to use it in a studio for more contrasty beauty shots

What is the way to go, or do you suggest an other alternative?




  
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Dec 11, 2018 09:35 |  #2

175cm will be big for location, isn't it?

I have old SP Systems 37" octabox which opens umbrella style and I love it. I have it for 7-8 yrs now. Not sure if they still make it.


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Dec 11, 2018 14:19 |  #3

You could check out Cheetahstand. I’ve had really good luck using their light modifiers.

I use Elinchrom strobes.


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Dec 12, 2018 20:02 |  #4

If you want to use the 175cm with Profoto just replace the Elinchrom speedring with the one they make for Profoto that way it's just as sturdy as the Elinchrom mount (more actually but you get the idea). This thing:

https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …talux_Speed_Rin​g_For.html (external link)

It's not my favourite Elinchrom at that size but I don't understand why you also want a separate location option, I know the 175cm is large but the weight and speed of set up is kinda what the Rotalux is especially good at so why not just also get an Elinchrom 70/100/DO if you find Elinchrom attractive enough to warrant the first scenario?




  
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Dec 13, 2018 14:47 |  #5

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Dec 14, 2018 14:29 |  #6

I use the 175 all the time with Profoto heads.

I also just got the 80” deep Fotodiox parabolic. I’m digging it. It’s definitely more contrasty than the Rotaluxes, but it puts out very even full-length light.

Can’t combine it with the Rotas though, the Elinchrom diffusion material has a warm color to it.



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Dec 21, 2018 00:04 |  #7

How about the Elinchrom 150cm deep octa in the inverse configuration? It mounts the strobe on the inside and the modifier mounts to the stand.

Because it is inverted, the light is bounced from the rear surface and then goes through both diffusers, creating a very soft light.

Putting it together the first time takes a little time, but once assembled, it's fairly quick to set up and take down. Surprisingly light and portable.


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Dec 22, 2018 20:03 |  #8

F2Bthere wrote in post #18775118 (external link)
How about the Elinchrom 150cm deep octa in the inverse configuration? It mounts the strobe on the inside and the modifier mounts to the stand.

I like the Indirect 150cm but it has a custom indirect mount so you can't replace it with another Rotalux speedring unlike the rest of the Rotalux range leaving only the options of the bolt on adapters (which the op has already said isn't solid enough) or to manually adapt it with some DIY.

F2Bthere wrote in post #18775118 (external link)
Because it is inverted, the light is bounced from the rear surface and then goes through both diffusers, creating a very soft light.

The advantage of an indirect softbox (in terms of output) isn't that it's softer but rather that the output is more even.




  
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Dec 22, 2018 22:21 |  #9

simonbarker wrote in post #18776301 (external link)
I like the Indirect 150cm but it has a custom indirect mount so you can't replace it with another Rotalux speedring unlike the rest of the Rotalux range leaving only the options of the bolt on adapters (which the op has already said isn't solid enough) or to manually adapt it with some DIY.

I think the "isn't solid enough" issue is more because it has to support the weight of the modifier, no?

With the indirect, the adapter only has to support the head, which isn't too bad even if it's a B1.

I do agree the Elinchrom Profoto adapter could be better. I got the third-party version because it is a bit more stable.

The connector is the biggest weakness in the Elinchrom system. Great system except for that. :)


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Dec 23, 2018 03:23 |  #10

F2Bthere wrote in post #18775118 (external link)
How about the Elinchrom 150cm deep octa in the inverse configuration? It mounts the strobe on the inside and the modifier mounts to the stand.

Because it is inverted, the light is bounced from the rear surface and then goes through both diffusers, creating a very soft light.

Putting it together the first time takes a little time, but once assembled, it's fairly quick to set up and take down. Surprisingly light and portable.


Just wanna share again my previous test on Rota150 :
1. Bare strobe forward
2. Bare strobe backward at focus point
3. Bare strobe forward with deflector plate
4. Bare strobe backward with strobe further away from focus point (I use DIY focusing rod, but now you can find 3rd party focusing rod sold online or cheetahstand)


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Dec 23, 2018 07:18 as a reply to  @ nixland's post |  #11

I just want to be sure, no diffusion material for any of these test shots?



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Dec 24, 2018 02:40 |  #12

chris_holtmeier wrote in post #18776505 (external link)
I just want to be sure, no diffusion material for any of these test shots?

None! :)




  
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Dec 24, 2018 06:41 as a reply to  @ nixland's post |  #13

That last photo is incredibly soft for not having any diffusion material.

I don’t think I’ve been defocusing my big para enough.

Thanks for the example photos!



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Dec 24, 2018 07:41 |  #14

Distance could be the deciding factor, and it’s certainly a contributor - how far was the light from the mannequin head?

chris_holtmeier wrote in post #18777125 (external link)
That last photo is incredibly soft for not having any diffusion material.

I don’t think I’ve been defocusing my big para enough.

Thanks for the example photos!


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Dec 24, 2018 07:53 |  #15

chris_holtmeier wrote in post #18777125 (external link)
That last photo is incredibly soft for not having any diffusion material.

I don’t think I’ve been defocusing my big para enough.

Thanks for the example photos!

Fyi, the rotalux silver interior has pebbled surface that makes light more scattered.




  
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