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Dec 27, 2018 09:49 |  #1816

randy98mtu wrote in post #18778786 (external link)
And from what I've seen, his help was met with similar condescending remarks about how he was only "sharing" his experience.

Its all good Dave and I are fine... He'll figure it out.. But I can't help him from here... I'm sure he's not offended or upset. He's quite experienced in photography and If anything ...he should help me out lol


I mean he completely disassembled his 100-400LII and put a new foot on it.. He knows the 100-400LII


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Dec 27, 2018 09:52 |  #1817

my apologies for derailing the conversation ... carry on


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Dec 27, 2018 10:02 |  #1818

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my apologies for derailing the conversation ... carry on

Kris its no problem... its just a bunch of guys that have been chatting it up for many years... many times I have been the one screaming WHAT THE &^%%$ ... We all need to do it once in a while..

I don't take any of it to heart.. as you should not as well... I know Dave is going to be fine in the end....


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Dec 27, 2018 10:45 |  #1819

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I've experienced unending hunt with just about every mirrorless camera I've had I think. First time I mounted my 24-240 on my A7R3, it focused fine at 24mm. Then I zoomed to 240 and it just searched and searched no matter where I pointed it. I "helped" it once with MF, then it was spot on from then on.

I'm blown away by the RF lenses every time I mount them. Particularly the 24-105. Focus seems instantaneous. Go from near to far and just tap AF-ON and "bam", it's in focus. I remember one reviewer saying Fuji I think it was has the fastest focusing - maybe that was all around, but man this thing seems hard to beat.

What about adapting canon?

I know with my sony a7r3 native lens has acted wonky here and there although it been mostly a positive experience, although im talking about 2 lesnes that arent known to be blazing fast (90macro and 85 gm)

How does it compare in your opinion eosr with native and eosr with ef?

(Im assuming youve used each adapted at some point , pardon it im mistaken)

Even though i gave this camera a a quick 5 minute look over , and said (in the eosr thoughts thread) that it wanst for me , i feel like giving it a fair try over a coupl3 of days ... but i think id be sticking with adpating ef l3nses


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Dec 27, 2018 10:55 |  #1820

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What about adapting canon?

I know with my sony a7r3 native lens has acted wonky here and there although it been mostly a positive experience, although im talking about 2 lesnes that arent known to be blazing fast (90macro and 85 gm)

How does it compare in your opinion eosr with native and eosr with ef?

(Im assuming youve used each adapted at some point , pardon it im mistaken)

Even though i gave this camera a a quick 5 minute look over , and said (in the eosr thoughts thread) that it wanst for me , i feel like giving it a fair try over a coupl3 of days ... but i think id be sticking with adpating ef l3nses

Adapted lenses are better than they were on the 5D series in my opinion. Not quite the blazing speed as the RF 24-105, but fast and accurate.

The EF lenses are better on the EOS R than via MC-11 on the A7R3. No surprise there obviously.


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Dec 27, 2018 11:01 |  #1821

rantercsr wrote in post #18778819 (external link)
What about adapting canon?

I know with my sony a7r3 native lens has acted wonky here and there although it been mostly a positive experience, although im talking about 2 lesnes that arent known to be blazing fast (90macro and 85 gm)

How does it compare in your opinion eosr with native and eosr with ef?

(Im assuming youve used each adapted at some point , pardon it im mistaken)

Even though i gave this camera a a quick 5 minute look over , and said (in the eosr thoughts thread) that it wanst for me , i feel like giving it a fair try over a coupl3 of days ... but i think id be sticking with adpating ef l3nses

I'm afraid I did the same... and returned one after a few short days... I think its pretty well known now that lenses are as sharp or people feel.... sharper than on other body's.
Using this body with all of canons lens lineup is why many have moved to the R.. Huge plus. IMO the adapter adds two extra places for contacts to be out of perfect contact but other than that its like its not even there.
I have not found anything negative about having the adapter on at all. Its solid in its mount like no other and opens up a huge array of lenses to choose from. As for AF using the adapter and EF lenses, The camera gives you all AF points and zero slow down or restrictions... This is why most of us are so willing to jump right in. IMO of course.


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Dec 27, 2018 11:29 |  #1822

Pondrader wrote in post #18778835 (external link)
I'm afraid I did the same... and returned one after a few short days... I think its pretty well known now that lenses are as sharp or people feel.... sharper than on other body's.
Using this body with all of canons lens lineup is why many have moved to the R.. Huge plus. IMO the adapter adds two extra places for contacts to be out of perfect contact but other than that its like its not even there.
I have not found anything negative about having the adapter on at all. Its solid in its mount like no other and opens up a huge array of lenses to choose from. As for AF using the adapter and EF lenses, The camera gives you all AF points and zero slow down or restrictions... This is why most of us are so willing to jump right in. IMO of course.

I bought an A7R3 to use in 2019 as a stopgap until a double SD slot variant of the R is released. Using the 40/2.8 and 100-400 II on the Sony, prepping for that inevitable new R body lol




  
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Dec 27, 2018 13:17 |  #1823

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I bought an A7R3 to use in 2019 as a stopgap until a double SD slot variant of the R is released. Using the 40/2.8 and 100-400 II on the Sony, prepping for that inevitable new R body lol

Well ... I have to say I have not written to both cards at the same time to safe guard against lost ever.. I have used both slots because of size limits.. like a 32g card in each
and still run out of space in an afternoon... One more reason I don't mind the 5 or 8 frames a second.. what do I need all those images for.. I already get way more than anyone here cares to look at. The 7D was 7 frames I think and it was a speed freak.

The one thing I wish was better is speed of AF to the target midway through the stroke to full draw... that is where the little birds live.. this branch to that branch and back again. Its not nearly as fast that way as the 7DII on up... but within a close range it is screaming fast.. makes my 100-400LII ring as it speeds to focus..

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Dec 27, 2018 15:18 as a reply to  @ post 18778661 |  #1824

There is a Single Point AF that you can move around (to >5500 locations!) and there is also an option in the Menus to have this appear as a Smaller AF Point, so there is a spot focus Method, although I am not sure how many pixels the standard and small AF Points cover?

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Dec 27, 2018 15:28 |  #1825

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There is a Single Point AF that you can move around (to >5500 locations!) and there is also an option in the Menus to have this appear as a Smaller AF Point, so there is a spot focus Method, although I am not sure how many pixels the standard and small AF Points cover?

Cheers

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I think the normal centre is a bit big Dennis. and the small option is only available in One shot.. Bummer...

BUT its a chance to move on and try and get use to the camera having some control.... really hate that part lol


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Dec 27, 2018 15:39 as a reply to  @ nardes's post |  #1826

Well that is compared to the 7DII.... I'm just very use to shooting that camera.. Its hard not to compare everything to the 7DII


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Dec 27, 2018 16:55 |  #1827

I feel like I’ve experienced the inability to focus with the 100-400 ii as well. I’m in the process of trying to figure it out myself, but I nudge the manual focus and then AF goes. Kinda strange. I’ll keep playing around.

In any event, went out and did more shooting with the R in crop mode with the 1.4x just to see some results of the reach.

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Dec 27, 2018 17:10 |  #1828

Those are just horrible. I'm selling my R. That's it. I am SO done with this POS Youtube camera wannabe.




  
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Dec 27, 2018 17:13 |  #1829

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I feel like I’ve experienced the inability to focus with the 100-400 ii as well. I’m in the process of trying to figure it out myself, but I nudge the manual focus and then AF goes. Kinda strange. I’ll keep playing around.

In any event, went out and did more shooting with the R in crop mode with the 1.4x just to see some results of the reach.
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I believe I'm talking about the same thing when I say its not as fast to change distances... I think we have all felt the effects... But if it has a glimmer of the focus it snaps quite quick..


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Dec 27, 2018 17:43 |  #1830

The EOS R / 100-400 Mk II combo could not focus on this static dragonfly during yesterday's outing, although when I manually (rough) focused it snapped to focus and locked on even as the reed swayed when a breeze temporarily hit it.

The behaviour was as if the AF "froze" as it would not re-focus even when I moved to a more distinct set of reeds in the BG. I had to take my hand off the shutter and then manually focus on the DF before 1/2 pressing again.

The BG of OOF monotone criss-cross reeds may have challenged the AF system?

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EDIT: just added the full frame view, Raw SOC resampled down to 1200x800 to show what the camera saw.

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