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Jan 01, 2019 09:54 |  #20881

Happy New Year Gang ~

Question about flash exposure compensation (for the pop-up flash)...

We have at least 3 ways of getting at it to adjust it - but I can't consistently find a way of working it properly.

Even the expanded pdf user manual is very lean on directions and details (pg 257).

It states nothing about what modes it works with.

I have of course changed it from ettl to manual flash - so I can change the power output that way... Does anyone know a quick way to access the flash output???

It is a bother going deep into the manual output menu trying to adjust it.

Thanks for any help, clarification, or demystifying you can offer.


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Jan 01, 2019 10:39 |  #20882

Immaculens wrote in post #18782233 (external link)
Happy New Year Gang ~

Question about flash exposure compensation (for the pop-up flash)...

We have at least 3 ways of getting at it to adjust it - but I can't consistently find a way of working it properly.

Even the expanded pdf user manual is very lean on directions and details (pg 257).

It states nothing about what modes it works with.

I have of course changed it from ettl to manual flash - so I can change the power output that way... Does anyone know a quick way to access the flash output???

It is a bother going deep into the manual output menu trying to adjust it.

Thanks for any help, clarification, or demystifying you can offer.

On the info screen on the back of the camera you have access. Q button - flash exposure comp


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Jan 01, 2019 11:41 |  #20883

Pondrader wrote in post #18782248 (external link)
On the info screen on the back of the camera you have access. Q button - flash exposure comp

Yes thank-you, but can you only use FEC outside of Manual mode?

Alternately - is there a button we can set for the manual flash output (Manual vs ETTL) ?


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Jan 01, 2019 12:24 |  #20884

Immaculens wrote in post #18782233 (external link)
Happy New Year Gang ~

Question about flash exposure compensation (for the pop-up flash)...

We have at least 3 ways of getting at it to adjust it - but I can't consistently find a way of working it properly.

Even the expanded pdf user manual is very lean on directions and details (pg 257).

It states nothing about what modes it works with.

I have of course changed it from ettl to manual flash - so I can change the power output that way... Does anyone know a quick way to access the flash output???

It is a bother going deep into the manual output menu trying to adjust it.

Thanks for any help, clarification, or demystifying you can offer.

On all my bodies I just press the ISO on the top and use the quick adjust dial to set the FEC, you can do this without taking your eye from the viewfinder.


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Jan 01, 2019 12:28 |  #20885

Immaculens wrote in post #18782286 (external link)
Yes thank-you, but can you only use FEC outside of Manual mode?

Alternately - is there a button we can set for the manual flash output (Manual vs ETTL) ?

You can use FEC in manual or auto natural light exposure mode.

Obviously in manual flash exposure mode you are then just adjusting the power and FEC does nothing and is meaningless AFAIK (might be disabled, never checked).

TBH for manual flash exposure (I only use for some macro-photo subjects) I just set the power level on the back of the flash.


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Jan 01, 2019 12:34 |  #20886

Thanks Lester - but perhaps my question is too vague.

But can anyone definitively tell me if you can use FEC for built-in Flash when in Manual Mode?

If yes - HOW?

At least 3 ways to access it but so little info or direction How To Use IT! lol

Or can anyone find a tutorial?? I have spent over 5 hours trying to figure out how to use it and so far the 7D2 manual and google have not helped.

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Jan 01, 2019 12:39 |  #20887

Immaculens wrote in post #18782344 (external link)
Thanks Lester - but perhaps my question is too vague.

But can anyone definitively tell me if you can use FEC for built-in Flash when in Manual Mode?

If yes - HOW?

At least 3 ways to access it but so little info or direction How To Use IT! lol

Or can anyone find a tutorial?? I have spent over 5 hours trying to figure out how to use it and so far the 7D2 manual and google have not helped.


I don't see how you can in manual flash mode, it is effectively meaningless, as I say you are setting the flash exposure with the triangle Flash Power, f-stop and ISO.

The same as exposure compensation has no meaning in manual mode and you are setting the exposure using shutter speed, f-stop and ISO. (Don't get confused by the auto ISO manual mode, that is just another auto exposure mode). See UM pages 267 and 283.


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Jan 02, 2019 21:35 |  #20888

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Jan 03, 2019 12:55 as a reply to  @ post 18780748 |  #20889

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Jan 03, 2019 17:01 |  #20890

Immaculens wrote in post #18782286 (external link)
... is there a button we can set for the manual flash output (Manual vs ETTL) ?

Posting again, if anyone knows how to assign the Manual Flash power to a button?
what a pain it is setting a power output - testing it - then going deep into settings again - try a different power - test it, etc.

I wish you could assign this even to "My Menu", but no.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #18782351 (external link)
I don't see how you can in manual flash mode, it is effectively meaningless, as I say you are setting the flash exposure with the triangle Flash Power, f-stop and ISO.

The same as exposure compensation has no meaning in manual mode and you are setting the exposure using shutter speed, f-stop and ISO. (Don't get confused by the auto ISO manual mode, that is just another auto exposure mode). See UM pages 267 and 283.

Thanks so much Lester - really appreciated. I will experiment with Tv & Av modes.


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Jan 03, 2019 19:46 |  #20891

Immaculens wrote in post #18783859 (external link)
Posting again, if anyone knows how to assign the Manual Flash power to a button?
what a pain it is setting a power output - testing it - then going deep into settings again - try a different power - test it, etc.

I wish you could assign this even to "My Menu", but no.

Thanks so much Lester - really appreciated. I will experiment with Tv & Av modes.

Set Up actions (once only).
You can create a new Custom MyMenu called, say "Speedlite".
You can then Add "Flash Control" to this "Speedlite" Menu so its the 1st line.
Set the built-in Flash Mode to "Manual flash"

Operational mode:
Select "Flash Control" from your Custom "Speedlite" Menu.
Cursor down (1 Line) to the "Flash Output" Line.
Scroll the rear wheel to set the flash output level.

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Jan 04, 2019 09:55 as a reply to  @ Peter2516's post |  #20892

Long - eared Owl

It drives me, and probably you, nuts that there has to be ONE branch in the near foreground, blurred enough to make simple touch-up impossible. And when you slowly move around in an attempt to eliminate this obstacle, the bird decides it has seen enough of you and flies off.

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Jan 04, 2019 12:16 |  #20893

Spent a few hours at Malibu Lagoon SP in what was to be the final birding trip of 2018! Got 4 lifers and some nice photos. A few selected ones below... all with the 7D2 + 500/4 II + 1.4X III.

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1. Western Snowy Plover - a near threatened species.

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2. Black bellied plover.

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Jan 04, 2019 12:17 |  #20894

Immaculens wrote in post #18783859 (external link)
Posting again, if anyone knows how to assign the Manual Flash power to a button?
what a pain it is setting a power output - testing it - then going deep into settings again - try a different power - test it, etc.

I wish you could assign this even to "My Menu", but no.

Thanks so much Lester - really appreciated. I will experiment with Tv & Av modes.

An alternative approach would be to set a given flash power and set the f-stop to tweak the exposure if this is any good to you.


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Jan 05, 2019 05:54 |  #20895

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