-= Canon EOS R owners unite! Post photos and discuss.

russbecker wrote in post #18784243
It definitely appears that the EOS R is capable of breathing new life into old and not so old glass, like the TCs.

Through the viewfinder, which is the most important plus, IMO. I can AF at f/16 on my 7D2, but only in god-awful Live View, which is not very friendly to handholding, or even on a tripod with active subject matter, with very narrow angles of view. I'm looking forward to where things like the R are going, but I'm not about to accept its mediocre-for-2018 high ISO noise (slightly more noise than my 6D, and more than my 7D2, when the R is cropped), or give up my realtime OVF for shooting active birds all that quickly. Mirrorless will most likely enter into my picture for the things I use my 6D for now; wide angles and/or shallow DOF.

Canon needs to start considering noise quantity and character again. They have let the 6D2 and R slip in this department (and I fear that Canon won't think twice about releasing a 7D2 successor with more visible RAW noise than the 7D2 at high ISOs). The R apparently uses the same sensor as the 5D4 (maybe the color filters are a little different), but there is more spatially correlated noise in the R than the 5D4 both at high ISOs and in base-ISO shadows.

It is painful to think about how expensive some of my optically poor wide, fast EF lenses were (24/1.4L, for example). US $800 for lenses that are as soft at f/1.4 as they are at the highly-diffracted minimum aperture. The 24/1.4L is a good solution, though, to a camera with highly aliased video, as the lens has anti-aliasing built in at f/1.4.

John, do you actually have an R, as what you're saying about noise isn't agreeing with what I've been reading in independent reviews?

John Sheehy wrote in post #18784945
Canon needs to start considering noise quantity and character again. They have let the 6D2 and R slip in this department (and I fear that Canon won't think twice about releasing a 7D2 successor with more visible RAW noise than the 7D2 at high ISOs). The R apparently uses the same sensor as the 5D4 (maybe the color filters are a little different), but there is more spatially correlated noise in the R than the 5D4 both at high ISOs and in base-ISO shadows.

It seems to me, from very extensive personal and professional use, that any increase in noise at high ISO is offset by a positive range of colour fidelity in the RAW files, when compared directly to the 5D4. I wondered aloud a few pages back if what we are seeing is perhaps a compromise. I most definitely prefer the colour of the R's RAW files to the 5D4. High ISO images have noise. Always have, probably always will (to some relative extent). But the colours in the R's Raw files seem more pleasing to me from ISO 100 to 12,800 (the range I am comfortable shooting in).

SereneSpeed wrote in post #18785086
It seems to me, from very extensive personal and professional use, that any increase in noise at high ISO is offset by a positive range of colour fidelity in the RAW files, when compared directly to the 5D4. I wondered aloud a few pages back if what we are seeing is perhaps a compromise. I most definitely prefer the colour of the R's RAW files to the 5D4. High ISO images have noise. Always have, probably always will (to some relative extent). But the colours in the R's Raw files seem more pleasing to me from ISO 100 to 12,800 (the range I am comfortable shooting in).

That seems to be true of the R in the brighter tones. That's why I have suggested that maybe the color filters are different in the R (than even the 5D4). In the DPR studio comparison tool, the R has more noise in shadows at high ISOs than the 5D4, but when you click on incandescent mode, the R gets closer to the 5D4 in visible noise, so maybe the R color filters are more sensitive to blue light.

What I think can be safely said about both the R and the 6D2 is that even though they have made no progress in read noise levels, and even a small step back (read-noise noise-wise, from the 5D4 and 6D, respectively) , their higher tones at medium and low ISOs are top-notch, for low photon noise and good color separation. They make very good slide film substitutes.

I don't think of this as a good balance, though; both should have improved together. The greater high-ISO noise in the R than the 5D4 isn't just intensity, due to possibly stronger color filters, but it has more of a noisy-electronics look to it, while the 5D4 is finer and more random.

Anyones 28-70 get delivered yet? I'm waiting for samples!

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #18784966
John, do you actually have an R, as what you're saying about noise isn't agreeing with what I've been reading in independent reviews?

You are wasting keystrokes. He doesn’t have one. He doesn’t seem to have tried one. And he doesn’t respond to anyone who doesn’t agree with him.

Has Canon dropped its price on the battery grip by like 50% - 60% yet?
This camera feels so awkward without a grip as i am used to all my current DSRLs having one.

A couple of pictures from this morning. So far I am impressed with the focusing. I have some other thoughts on using this camera that I will be sharing later when I have time to write it up. But for now, I will just say that I don't plan on returning it.

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Sat on my deck for awhile and watched the birdies

A few more..

I am glad we are back to sharing EOS R pics

I’m no Ponrader, but I. Have a Squirrel!

bbqkid8 wrote in post #18785325
I am glad we are back to sharing EOS R pics

Patience my friend. It shall not last.

I have a couple,.......

Going for a little drive tomorrow... see what comes of it... maybe something new. I'll post a couple hundred shots of that

nardes wrote in post #18784821
Dragonfly-in-flight almost touching down on the water surface, possibly laying eggs?

Liking the AF capabilities of the EOS R.

Cheers

Dennis

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This is supper sharp!