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Jan 12, 2019 16:08 |  #1

At my nieces wedding and the photographer is using a 60" umbrella for some shots (used in the church too) but...

It's a reflector / shoot through combo with the black cover on. And shooting through it...

I just snuck a peek and they're using godox (speedlite sized) lights and it LOOKS LIKE, they're running two of those units. I watched some of the shots with this set up and it's giving them a really small center hot spot of about 12-14"...

I've GOT TO ASK what benefit they're getting because the whole purpose of the thing escapes me...


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Jan 12, 2019 16:13 |  #2

The bigger the source of light, the softer and more diffused it is, and then running two AD200s is the equivalent (or actually a bit more) output of a 400w strobe. So more power plus large diffuser makes for a good light source if used correctly.

At least that is my understanding, and I have the same basic setup, but still could be ignorant and misinformed. :)

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Jan 12, 2019 17:06 |  #3

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At my nieces wedding and the photographer is using a 60" umbrella for some shots (used in the church too) but...

It's a reflector / shoot through combo with the black cover on. And shooting through it...

I just snuck a peek and they're using godox (speedlite sized) lights and it LOOKS LIKE, they're running two of those units. I watched some of the shots with this set up and it's giving them a really small center hot spot of about 12-14"...

I've GOT TO ASK what benefit they're getting because the whole purpose of the thing escapes me...


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I am trying to get the picture right: back of the umbrellas were pointing to the subjects? and the 12-14" hot spot was observed on the cover?


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Jan 12, 2019 17:31 |  #4

Oh, I missed that, I thought the question was just generally about the large softbox and the two godox strobes inside. If that is aimed at wall, that won't do too much unless it was at an angle to the wall trying to make the wall a large light source. Was there a diffuser panel attached, or was the umbrella wide open?

I did something similar with the low ceilings, I aimed one of the strobes at a steep angle to get the light to come down onto the folks, especially those in the back, so perhaps that was the goal here?


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Jan 12, 2019 18:26 |  #5

R u sure there’s no white lining and the photog is using a wall to bounce the light..? I’ve not heard of shooting through a black fabric. It would be quite an ND filter and a waste IMO.


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Jan 12, 2019 18:29 |  #6

Open end of umbrella very nearly against the small portion of the wall between two windows. About a foot away, and virtually no light coming back from said wall...

They were bouncing the godox off the 35' ceiling in the church as well. Or they were TRYING to anyway. I didn't chimp them so I have no idea how much it added...




  
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Jan 12, 2019 18:37 |  #7

Yes it DOES look like there's a white lining but the section of the wall is about 3' wide (2, 1-1/2' parts) angled between floor to ceiling windows...




  
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Jan 12, 2019 20:27 |  #8

Bouncing into a white wall like this makes light that has no "tell", it's not "sourcey" - i.e. it looks more natural. If done right ;)


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Jan 12, 2019 20:45 as a reply to  @ jlafferty's post |  #9

but theres no wall. or at least none of any consequence...




  
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Jan 12, 2019 20:54 |  #10

There appears to be.enough wall to bounce off. It only needs to be slightly wider than the umbrella to be a bounce surface.




  
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Jan 12, 2019 22:05 |  #11

Could they have been using other lights at the time and just parked the umbrella against the wall to get it out of the way? Maybe they didn’t bother to turn off the Godox lights and they were getting triggered inadvertently.


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Jan 12, 2019 22:20 |  #12

Were they cramped for space? If so they may have turned the modifier toward the wall to keep from being so intrusive to the reception party as they gathered candid shots...??? It definitely doesn't look like it would be an optimal setup for photography purposes.


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Jan 13, 2019 07:12 |  #13

Ltdave wrote in post #18790439 (external link)
but theres no wall. or at least none of any consequence...

What’s that large band of material to the left of the door?


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Jan 13, 2019 09:33 as a reply to  @ jlafferty's post |  #14

It is wall. I roughly guess it was about 40% the width of the umbrella...

To the left of IT, is window. Not quite floor to ceiling




  
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Jan 13, 2019 09:34 |  #15

gonzogolf wrote in post #18790451 (external link)
There appears to be.enough wall to bounce off. It only needs to be slightly wider than the umbrella to be a bounce surface.

The wall was less than half the width of the umbrella...




  
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