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Aug 31, 2018 01:09 |  #1

is it possible to do panning at night time with a flash and capture the motion in slow shutter speed, without freezing the subject vehicle?




  
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Aug 31, 2018 09:07 |  #2

If you went out & tried that with traffic, I think you would find that the flash duration is too fast to avoid freezing the vehicle. Maybe you could find spots where there is some ambient light that would allow the image you're thinking of w/out using flash.
The biggest problem I see is that you're probably going to need to manually pre-focus if it's that dark out. OTOH, here's a black car in the late evening & I think the AIServo did it's job: GT-40 on Woodward
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Aug 31, 2018 09:31 |  #3

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If you went out & tried that with traffic, I think you would find that the flash duration is too fast to avoid freezing the vehicle. Maybe you could find spots where there is some ambient light that would allow the image you're thinking of w/out using flash.
The biggest problem I see is that you're probably going to need to manually pre-focus if it's that dark out. OTOH, here's a black car in the late evening & I think the AIServo did it's job: GT-40 on Woodward
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you are right, as you can see from the photo attached,

I tried a few times and even went as low as 1/15s with rear curtain flash and got everything you would expect from a pan shot, flu with light trails except the wheels of the car :-)


As you suggested, I think its best to utilize any ambient light available and shoot at high ISO....my Nikon D5 sees like a bat in the dark :-D


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Aug 31, 2018 10:32 as a reply to  @ joebloogs's post |  #4

Flash can be quite distracting for a driver :(




  
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Aug 31, 2018 10:41 |  #5

colintf wrote in post #18697261 (external link)
Flash can be quite distracting for a driver :(

true, but it depends on your angle..if you fire a flash on to the car head on, yes it is distracting.

some events they ban use of flash but unless its a track event, there is no way they can enforce a ban (like on a street stage where every Tom,Dick & Harry holds a camera on the side of the road)




  
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Sep 01, 2018 04:18 as a reply to  @ joebloogs's post |  #6

I've seen drivers really distracted by a flash used during panning at Le Mans Classic. I think they should be banned for safety reasons!!




  
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Dec 20, 2018 10:04 as a reply to  @ colintf's post |  #7

I go to the Rolex 24 hour race at Daytona every year and see several photogs shooting with flash in certain corners. They can get much closer than I am able to so I've never tried, but there must be a good reason. I would be really interested to see some of those results.


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Feb 03, 2019 19:39 |  #8

I shoot weekly at a quarter mile paved bullring using flash. The strobe effect does mask any motion blur.

I have never had any driver ever tell me that my flash was distracting


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Feb 03, 2019 20:49 |  #9

colintf wrote in post #18697261 (external link)
Flash can be quite distracting for a driver :(

Tell that to rally photographers.

When I used to attend the RAC Rally in the UK, in the middle of the night and in a forest, you could track the approach of each car by watching the trail of flashguns firing in the distance.


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